On the other hand the GOP is now leading the generic congressional ballot with the GOP+4. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...erm-indicator/

yeah, republicans are the one's burning money.

I don't watch fox news or listen to that crazy conservative radio personality that you liberals always mock.

1. I know everyone loves demographics, but let's remember that 1,000 votes for your party from a group of fat people is worth the same as 1,000 votes from a group of little people. FYI- 86.4% of little people voted repub last election and that was up from 42.6% in the '08 elction. (www.demographicsareoverrated.com/littlepeople).
2. agreed
4. or... how much credit repubs will get when people realize how much worse off we will be with obamacare.
3&5. terrible arguments/ clinging to ideals of past generations...?



If repubs are doomed now what kind of shape were dems in 1988?

In 1972, Nixon was reelected w/ a margin of victory of over 23% (twenty-****ing-three percent). A narrow victory by carter in 1976 led to the only 4 yrs a dem was president in the 24 year period between '68 and '92. After carter, reagan won back to back elections with margins of victory of 10% and 18%. Bush rounded out the repub dominance in '88 w/ a margin of victory of almost 8%.

Obama's popular vote margin of victory have been smaller than all 4 of those margin of victories I mentioned (7.3% & 3.9%). His margin of victory was almost halved from '08 to '12 too.

Yes. They burnt money by shutting down the government.

God I wish Intrade was gonna be accessible for this next election cycle. So many idiots locked into the echo chamber with little sense but plenty of money to burn.

The latest polls don't support the House doing anything but staying red. Do you think Obama/Obamacare will become more popular by the elections?

Of course! Wasn't it Herr Pelosi that said,
"The more you find out what's in the Bill, the better you will like it!"

Yep, and I have no doubt that government workers productivity stayed about the same during those two weeks.

Oh, and I didn't see any Democrats voting to not pay government employees aka leeches.

Yeah, cant imagine the Republicans are losing the House and they have a decent shot at the Senate. Not sure how betting on Republicans next election is going to be costly.

You didnt see any Republicans voting not to either. Zero political will or support for doing so which, again, made shutting down the government a braindead thing to do.

Isn't a dem criticizing a repub about wasting money kinda like a former lottery jackpot winner that is now a homeless crackhead criticizing Mother Teresa for a small mistake she made, like using the word "your" instead of "you're" in a letter she wrote?

No.

Then where on earth did you come up with the impression that people thought the shutdown was a good thing and Republicans "got credit" for it? The more citations here, the better, thanks in advance.

Oh, I must have misunderstood what Mother Teresa was all about.

Mostly from a few economists that I like, but also CNBC, WSJ, and a few other sources.

Can you post links?

bahbahmickey's analogies are like a tomato wrestling a finite dimension.

Was baha the dude whose "clients" were paying him a ton of money to project a Romney victory and he would have been correct if it wasn't for those meddling kids/hurricane?

No, pipes.

Ah thanks....long list of flat out delusional right wingers itf.

This is good - thanks for the laugh.

I didn't come up with this from one thing I read or saw, but I guess I can post links to these if you are unfamiliar with them. The WSJ is a newspaper I usually read in print form, but you you can check it out at http://online.wsj.com/home-page. CNBC is a tv station, but they also have a website with some valuable info at: http://www.cnbc.com/.

As I already said, I read from a few different economists too, but most of them I can give you a link to because I work in a heavily regulated industry and/or you have to pay for the material.

Ummm....no.

EDIT: The WSJ editorial board was 100% against shutting down the government and thought it was a stupid thing to do, so Im a bit dubious about your sources.

You know that they voted 565-0 or something like that (the 0 is correct) to pay all the employees for time missed right?

I couldn't have said it better myself.

No. Why would someone pay someone else to project a victory?

That's why clients was in quotes.