why dont you guys make a list of all the perceived racists you discover and create a blacklist. communist sympathizers are still out there too lets not forget. guys with 5000+ posts if you have any spare time (lol...) please scrutinize posts a little better i just read a post where a guy was talking about how he hates kfc. obviously a hidden racist rant and noone called him out!

Welcome back again, silverDunce!

May I suggest another hobby?

Do the posts themselves in this thread count?

Well, I made a note in the OP to exclude internet racism because it is easy to fake, troll, and/or strawman, making it hard to tell and people do not take internet abusive behavior as seriously as instances in face-to-face society.

The post you quoted is rather indicative of stereotyping ( black men don't golf and love Obama). So I guess you can qualify it.

also,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXSLcYQHqFQ

When I was employed at Delphi for 18 months, there was a guy I would run into a few times a week. The majority of the time he would have a new racist joke to tell me. He would deliver it in a way where he would tie it into a story, so I never really knew if this guy was telling me something with meaning or if it was all leading to a racist punch line.

I.E. "Have you read the paper? This new environmental group is planting a bunch of trees all over Detroit. **big grin stretches out over his face** public transportation"

http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/...rom-the-30s-on

Yeah racism is real funny in 2015. (angry sarcasm)

http://whnt.com/2015/01/01/limestone...cist-graffiti/

I grew up in an all white area of a big city. If a potential home buyer wasn't white the windows of that property would get smashed. You weren't allowed to be black on foot. This was in the late eighties. It' now 99% black and all the whites that left will be sure to express their pleasure in pointing out how crime ridden it is now.

The NAACP was bombed in Colorado today.

I've been harassed by the police dozens (my best guess from memory would be 60ish) of times for being white in a black "bad" neighborhood, but I never looked at these as being the victim of racism, unless you consider the angle of it being a bizarre pocket of racial profiling. The big racist part of it imo was the cops having their mind's blown that I was there to visit a black friend and/or not being scared to drive through the "bad" neighborhood, as their thinking was I was obviously involved in the drug trade in some way.

hmmmmm

i want to say maybe


I do believe phonetically writing accents in literature is hella racist though.

So this quote from a Harry Potter book is hella racist against the French?

“I was so please to ‘ear you would be coming – zere isn’t much to do ‘ere, unless you like cooking and chickens. Well – enjoy your breakfast, 'Arry!”

How old were you, how did you dress, what city?

I'm wondering because I used to work in poor neighborhoods in LA (mostly Black and/or Hispanic) doing real estate appraisals for a low income loan program. I was in my early 20s for most of that - about 5 years. I was never once stopped by police. Dunno if the difference would be which city or just that I looked like I was working.

It's a bit strange that in poker we all have a way of deciphering a situation/body language to lean towards a conclusion whereas in the real world we are confused about it.

What you are asking really depends. You could be the most straight-laced looking white guy in the world but it could completely depends on factors like time of day, what type of car you are driving, and how you look behind the wheel to dictate if you get pulled over or not.

I got pulled over in New Jersey and a backup k-9 unit was called to sniff for drugs, and I know it was because of my tinted windows and what I was wearing. It all just depends on who is looking at you.

Dammit my addiction to hyperbole gets me in trouble again.

Obv I'm walking back "HELLA racist" in general, and I'd say that example is way down on the scale, but my basic point is this:

The only people that speak proper english are BBC news reporters, and there are, like, what 50 of them, 100 tops? Everybody else in any part of the world, England and the US hella included, speaks with an accent, and what could easily be called a heavy accent when comparing accents to each other (i.e. not using the BBB reporter baseline).

So it's not necessarily racist or classist or etc but when writer does it you know they're... up to something. Also, it's hella tonally inconsistent and jarring from a literary standpoint.

I'll go into more detail next time I'm online but if you recall I talked about it a little bit in the M.Brown thread. I was supergrunching so it was bad play and horrible timing, but for now I'll say this was Chicago during nights/weekends, and I think those two details ARE very important.

I grew up in a smallish town with only about 1% of the population being black. The town is highly segregated by class. The top 50% live on the south side of town and the bottom 50% on the north side. It really is that bifurcated. I lived on the south side in one of the better neighborhoods growing up. I didn't have a black person in any class until 8th grade. Even then I only had classes with two black students from 7th to 12th grade (though I hung out with one black kid who was a year behind me senior year).

When I was a little kid a lot of my favorite shows had black actors portrayed positively. Different Stokes, The Cosby Show, Family Matters, Fresh Prince of Bel Air. My family never discussed race. Neither did any my friends. All I knew about black people came from those shows. The only racism I was exposed to at the time was always in an educational context.

At age 14 I met my first northsiders through the Babe Ruth baseball league. There were two guys on my team from the north side who were just the most vile racists ever. They dropped N bombs left and right and constantly talked about how much they hated black people. One of the guys had "KKK" shaved into his hair. I made the all star team that year and most of the other kids on the team were from the north side (there were two all star teams and most of the southside kids were on the other team). They were all hardcore racists just like my two other teammates. They talked about race constantly. Their hate was palpable. There were probably about 8 of them who talked about this kind of thing regularly.

Now remember, only 1% of the city population is black. Even fewer live in the suburbs. These guys were obsessed with hatred towards black people. Our city didn't have black ghettos. The black population was dispersed evenly throughout the city. Our city didn't have black gangs. Our town had very little crime. The only criminal prosecutions that I ever remember reading about in the local paper were committed by whites or Asians (our town had a sizable Asian refugee population at the time). The average black person in our town differed very little in socioeconomic status than the average white person. The university in our town had a lot of black professors. One of the black kids I had classes with parents were professors. She lived on my paper route in a nice house. The black kid I hung out with senior year was from an average middle class family. The point is that the north side kids had miniscule exposure to black people, and when they did, it would have been no different to their exposure to white people on average had they not brought their own racism into the scenario. Yet despite this, they made the hatred of black people a defining aspect of their personality and their life.

It was a shocking experience for me. I went 14 years without ever seeing racism, but that summer I saw it manifested in vile ways everyday. I haven't witnessed 1/10th of the racism I did during those 5 months in the 20 years since. I'll never forget that experience. It was one of the strangest things I've ever witnessed.

@jokerthief

It's pretty common for racism to be more outwardly expressed by lower socioeconomic classes. One theory to explain this is that lower class whites want someone to be above in order to make themselves feel higher in the social order. "At least I'm not black." They rag on black people because it's their birthright, and because it signifies that they are not at the bottom.

Another view (not mutually exclusive) is that poorer whites blame black people for their low position. The taxes they pay are going to pay for some vaguely conceptualized minority breeding farms instead of making them middle class, or lobbyists for minorities play on the soft heart of (post colonial/slavery) societies in order to gain unfair advantage, etc. Of course, if the minorities are to blame then they deserve scorn.

It's also common for upper class families, like yours, to be somewhat aloof to race/racism. If their opinions were examined you would expect to find some pretty severe, yet normalized, level of racism there. However, some of the reasons for openly hostile expressions of racism seem to derive from a type of status anxiety from which your family, presumably, did not suffer.

Just had a really strange one happen to us. We are shopping around for a place to rent in the Bay area. Talked to a condo owner after and the conversation got really weird.

I was sitting next to her and hear her respond "I'm Chinese" to the owner on the phone. A few minutes later she gets off the phone and I ask her "what was that about?" She said the owner asked what her race was. He then responded "Oh good, you're Asian, I know you'll take care of the place".

I just looked at her and said "isn't that illegal?" She wasn't sure, but the dude turned out to be so weird we didn't take the place.

I'm still a bit dumbfounded by that comment.

I have told this story before.

Maybe ten years ago. I was riding my bike on the beach bike path that goes from Marina Del Rey to Torrance.

At the intersection of the Redondo Beach pier and the bike path there were blinking red lights and signs indicating to walk your bike.

I stopped my bike and rested next to a police officer who was talking to friends and keeping one eye on the bike path. Every now and again, maybe once in twenty in the crowds of walkers, skaters, bike riders, would a mounted bike rider pass by. I noticed this and thought no big deal; the cop didn't seem to mind. After about ten minutes or so, two black male mounted bike riders slowly peddled up, the white cop jumped in front of them to stop their progress and ordered them off their bikes. They complied. Not 15 seconds later, the cop totally ignored a white girl riding her bike through the red lights.

So this happened around twenty-three years ago. I inquired about a bank loan to purchase a house. I had a productive telephone conversation with the loan agent at my bank. I made an appointment to meet her at the bank and checked in with the receptionist at the appointed time.

The receptionist announced me and the agent got out of her mini cubicle and warmly greeted the scruffy white guy near me. I was wearing a suit and tie, (came from work) and had to explain to her I was Mr. Gunner.

Thirty seven years ago. I was hanging out with my girl in the park off of La Cienega, the one with the oil wells.

We were drinking and decided to walk up the hill to go under the bushes.

Two cops one black and one white busted us. The white cop called me a ******. I took exception to the black cop not reacting to that and ended up going to jail. Went to Marina Del Rey jail next to the windmill LOL. Released without charges the next day.

Wait. Was the girl white or black?

Black, not pretty but enthusiastic, LOL