It would be less important if it was an average bod - the man is running for president (or whatever you call this stage), he has influence, media exposure and a responsibility. I can't see how we can take seriously the idea he has some info he can't make public.

Lets assume he has no special info. Why would he say that Mexico is exporting it's rapists etc. Political advantage?

The part where you say I read the article and said it wasn't racist I actually said I read an article on another site (which of course means I read a different article). Going along with your onion comparison: The onion takes real articles (or stories) and makes them silly - what I did was read the real article and then a day or two later posted the onion version thinking it was the real article after looking at the title.

My point about ACA still holds true today. You don't need to hear every little fact about WW2 to know that the nazis were not good people. If you hear they are mass executing Jews they are bad people - no need to read up on their economic or other social issues. The fact that the ACA had a clause where it was distributing wealth was enough for me to disagree with it. If you want to redistribute wealth that is fine, but you don't need to do it in the form of a healthcare bill - stop trying to hide it.

For whatever reason he is hellbent on reforming immigration laws. It isn't exactly unheard of for politicians to lie to get votes or support on an issue. He very well could be lying, but my point is that either way what he said in THAT quote isn't racist.

If I posted a quote about how trump like pancakes more than waffles he would call it racist and his source would be that trump previously said something derogatory towards muslims.

lol bahbah. No there was no real article where grandma gunned down a black dude playing the knockout game. Try again.

lol bahbah, another post showing why you are so dumb you got banned from a subforum

You put all that work into digging up those old posts (most of which don't even go along with your story) and then you hand wave my response... typical gambool.

Well there's the obvious fact that you "could never find" the "real" story. Perhaps you could link it now? Google exists after all.

But after the 100% conclusive proof I posted, nothing else left to add but lolbahbah at this point.

gambool, if anyone asked I probably would have actually spent some real time looking for the other(s) articles, but I don't pay much attention to the little puppy barking at my heels.

100% proof that I posted a racist article? You could have just quoted myself, you and about 3 others saying it was racist and saved yourself some time.

everyone please note that gambool also brought up my ACA stance again and I used the same answer to tell him he is wrong back then and about 5 posts ago and both times he just moves on as if it never happened.

So, yeah, Im not the one handwaving. loooool bahbah.

You made hundreds of posts in the ACA thread with strong opinions based on things that were factually wrong and said "well I didn't actually have to research it, I just knew it was bad". That's your account of your ACA stance, and Im not disputing it.

But point is made, you are clueless on the subject of racism, so now we can go back to laughing at your moronic stance on how Trump's statements aren't racist as you pretend not to be a moronic bigot.

I never said anything similar to this: "well I didn't actually have to research it, I just knew it was bad". I made my point about ACA and was defending that one point.

gambool, for now on can you refer to me as "THE strawman slayer"?

Id rather more accurately refer to you as a financial criminal.

Or liar. I can just refer to you as liar.

gambool,

Why would you call me liar? What is different than what I just said and that quote of mine from a year+ ago? Both times I said I didn't like ACA because it was a job killer and had wealth distribution in it.

Sincerly,

THE strawman slayer

As I said, I agree with you. You didn't research the ACA, but just knew it was bad. Your self-assessment is accurate.

You not understanding your own post...well that's standard, you are a bottom decile individual in terms of intelligence. One of the funniest things Ive read on this board was your continuous angst and anger at the OWS movement and your hilarious proclivity for looking down on them when like 95% of the people involved in that movement were still somehow demonstrably smarter than you (FYI, the Mexican immigrants....95% of them are smarter than you as well just FYI)

gambool, as you and I have both said in the past hour or two, I did do research, but it was very little research. I didn't just magically know that ACA was a wealth distributor - I found that out by research. If you are going to give me **** you have to stop saying one thing and then the next post contradicting yourself.

Hold the phone... in a shocking turn of events gambool is trying to change the subject when he finds himself at a dead end.

If you want to discuss my dislike for OWS you need to admit you were wrong/lying about what I actually posted about the racist article & what I posted about ACA.

--bahbahmickey, after a thousand posts in the ACA thread, the vast majority of which were factually wrong.

Umm....no, I'm not wrong/lying, you are obviously clueless about racism and have a proclivity for bigotry which showed when you proudly posted an article about a white woman shooting a tiny brained African-American then going through a hilarious litany of lies and terrible/nonsensical excuses (look, just because this didn't happen doesn't mean the article doesn't support my point....was probably my personal favorite)

Nor do I wish to discuss OWS. Just pointing out another spot where you tried to look down on others despite being one of the absolute dumbest posters on twoplustwo.

Certainly not trying to change the subject from you being aggressively ignorant/wrong about Trumps unambiguously racist statements. I forgot another coincidental statement from Trump....the fact that he saw thousands of Muslims on TV cheering about 9/11. Just an awful coincidence he keeps getting caught up in these bigoted/racist brouhahas where he disparages a minority group with zero evidence to support his version of facts, right bahbah? Either the unluckiest guy on earth....or he's trying to dogwhistle to his bahbahmickey like base by saying stuff like "Mexican immigrants are rapists and drug dealers". You know, one or the other.

I thought we already went over this. I don't like ACA because of the wealth distribution involved in it. I didn't really say much else in the ACA thread so not sure how anything I said was factually wrong.

Did he just compare the ACA to the Holocaust?

You made 191 posts in the ACA thread bahbah and that's with being exiled for over a year....in large part because of your ACA thread work. So another straight up lie from you.

Okay, that was strong. However, my point is that just because someone doesn't know every little detail of a situation doesn't mean he can't rightfully dislike it like gambool is trying to say.

A got banned for repeating myself when others repeatedly asked me the same question.

191 posts bahbah, but yeah, I'm sure they all just said "I don't like to redistribute wealth".

You should know by now that lying in that way is called racist by some here.

What we call it doesn't matter that much if you agree it was an indefensibly disgusting thing for him to say. If you think it was ok then we would have a real disagreement rather than confusion caused by non-standard use of words.

Calling trump's statement racist isn't non-standard language use. Cool passive aggressive bull**** though chez.

If it's a deliberate lie for political gain then it's non-standard to call it racist.

It's despicable in it's own right - cynical and arguably far worse than the racists he is pandering to. I don't think you should let him off the hook so easily by lumping him in with something common.

Sorry if that upsets you you nut job.

Racists lying for political gain is as inherent to racism as a face hidden by a hood.

Sure, both racist and non-racists can deliberately lie for political gain and both can be pandering to racist sentiments or not while doing it.

There's no need to dumb it down just to please a nutter on a forum.

Definitely I agree. Over-dumbing can be a perilous choice.

Not all lies are equal. Not all political lies are equal specifically.

The finest, smartest, most honest points we can make about how racism connects with political deception, the better prepared anyone may be to simply recognize it.

People dedicated to resist and fight racism can benefit smartly from knowing the enemy.

People who don't want to be fooled by racists or politicians benefit from picking up the cues and tells of deception.