Come on now, you're being mean. He didn't break the law, just volunteered not to follow it. WHo the F is John Galt?

Was this before or after threats of a "range war"?

I'm having some trouble confirming this. Perhaps you could let us know what reliable source you're getting your timeline from.

Why would federal agents surround his "farm" when their goal was to remove trespassing cattle from BLM land (by definition somewhere other than the Bundy's land)?

Seems like what happened was this:
That's somewhat less alarming than the fevered scenario in your head of jackbooted federal thugs surrounding the peace-loving patriotic rancher's house and putting their "crosshairs on family members".

Man when Silver_Man learns how the police treated Occupiers, MOVE, Kent State, etc. he's going to freak out so hard. Dude is having a panic attack because cops didn't leave their guns at home or something? Jesus we all know you're purebreed bitch, Silver, but your cowardice is really going up a notch here.

Guns are more then fine...

but SNIPERS?

Maybe, maybe not........but I'm not in this case whatsoever.....

Federal government sympathizer ITT...

That's a wrong sandwich right there boy.

**** someone who sympathizes with their government, tar and feather them! You're a local bumpkin sheriff sympathizer, how is that better?

He's like a libertarian Jesus.

Is this one of your zingers where the insult is just being something you say and it's not close to funny?

So that makes you a supporter of the angry irresponsible criminals?


My principle on justice is if you are going to break a law, be it county, city, state, or federal; even on purpose, it doesn't excuse you from the responsibility of the consequences of your behavior. Blaming the "other guy" is not responsible, but a misdirection. An exercise in avoiding responsiblity. How in this case? The proof is in the angry armed pudding pie topped with bellicose threats and demands.

Because the federal government is filthy, scummy, and rotten to its absolute core...

Corrupt, period.

Not trying to be funny. It is true......and disgusting.....

The funny thing is it has nothing to do with stupid desert tortoises or grazing fees and you guys know this.......yet you still support their scumminess.

And sheriffs aren't?

What exactly does it have to do with? Because it sure seems like it has to do with both those things.

I'm still waiting for your definitive timeline of events over the past week and why you think snipers were surrounding the farm at some point.

Opinions are only as good as the facts they're based on.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-tortoise.html

From 4 days ago...

Look, if you want to say the riffraff showing up were out of line for bringing guns, I can understand that ONLY IF, you say the feds are out of line for showing up and surrounding the farm with snipers, initially. That is a reasonable stance that I can expect from someone who is against the riffraff showing up with their muskets. Being against both to a degree even if you are more against the riffraff protesters...

I get Feds will show up with guns and that is fine... but snipers?!?!?! And no criticism from you far left nutjobs?

Also, I can also understand if the feds show up with guns......then the protester show up with muskets....and THEN the feds bring in the snipers...

Then at that point it is potentially game on, and if the feds want to fight, I'm sure the protesters are more then willing to engage them...

Then popcornGIF

Ridiculous. Character as shallow and broken as Ayn Rand's ego.

I nominate Michael Valentine Smith for fictional libertarian modern mythical jesus. Do you grok?

Heinlein >>>>>>> Rand

LOL at the Daily Mail being a reliable source for events happening in southern Nevada.

But ignoring that, the best you've got in that article is this graf:
Assuming it's accurate, this is quite a far cry from your description of agents and snipers surrounding the farm and putting family members in the crosshairs. But I have serious doubts that it's accurate anyway since "radio talk show commentary" generally has a poor correlation with reality.

But let's cut to the chase: Do you think all Federal laws and court orders can be ignored with impunity, or just some of them?

By the way, if you narrowed the focus of your protest to stuff like this, you'd find a lot more agreement:
This is outrageous and unacceptable. If you want to protest this, I'll stand with you in the front row with the largest sign. I'm confident that the ACLU will also join our protest.

Edit: I was right, ACLU is on board:

Either way. Exploiting the same dilemna I mentioned on page one just from a different angle. One again SM2 got nothing, but another dead-end cynical assertion. This time in support of armed thugs. Enjoy your disgust.

I have still seen no evidence that this happened. You should stop saying it. If at some point in the future I become convinced that this is an accurate description of what happened, I would absolutely agree that it was out of line.

To be clear, this is objectionable:
1. Feds swoop in and surround ranch with snipers while rounding up trespassing cattle

This is much less objectionable:
1. Feds begin rounding up trespassing cattle
2. Rancher declares "The Range War begins tomorrow"
3. Feds respond with heavy armed presence including snipers

Which of these timelines is closer to the truth?

when rebels banded together after the British fired upon their subjects at Lexington Green , the rebels were breaking the law.

When the continental congress gathered at the Carpenter's Union Hall in Philadelphia to sign the Declaration of Independence, they were breaking the law.

George Washington was the David Koresh and Randy Weaver of his time. He lost more battles than he won.

Thomas Jefferson penned the constitution knowing it was sedition and treason against the British government who were the legal rulers of the US under International law.

Nelson Mandela was imprisoned for breaking the law. He was listed as a terrorist by the Reagan/Cheney cartel from 1985 to 2008. Yesterday's bomb thrower is tomorrow's Nobel Peace prize recipient.

Sometimes history demands you grow a set and fight for change.

lol like some old freeloading moocher is worth revolting over. And I mean old as in been mooching and freeloading for years.