You're argument here is that corporal punishment before an act is carried out is justified, but afterwards is not? So, in the gun scenario, the father smacking his son is OK if he picks up the gun, but not OK after the gun discharged?

I can't 100% guarantee anything. I've never hit a woman in my life, but I can't guarantee I would never hit my wife. How could anyone make a statement like that? I'm having trouble coming up with a scenario with me doing that, but if she pulled a knife on me in a fit of rage (far fetched, but I'm trying to come up with something here), I could see myself striking her.

The fake-outrage has gotten to the point of idiocy in all circles of debate anymore. To be offended in any way, shape, or form of someone playfully calling someone "UK boy" is pathetic, to call someone a bigot over it is just comical.

The youth these days. Wow. I don't see how they can leave the house without needing psychological treatment from the non-stop aggression they face.

Something political, or some sort of counter-movement. Something has to give, as the situation as it currently is in insufferable.

Nothing can be said or any position can be held anymore where there isn't bigotry involved against the group-think fee-fee left. It's absurd.

"Lol, Wil, you ****ing bigot" is an accurate assessment.

He's the guy who's had a temper tantrum and stuck me on ignore, the bigoted ****ing coward.

See, Wil think he's being clever here again, even though anyone can go back and read that the actual comments. I mean, I'm not upset and it's not the term "UK boy" that makes him a bigot.

I've actually explained it all to him multiple times and each one he just doubles down like a moron.

Um....I'm not arguing anything. I was asking you to elaborate on your stance so I could better understand why you believe the things you have been saying all thread.

The cop's husband brought this conversation up with you? Or did you crack a joke about the kid as he walked by with a black eye, and the husband filled you in?

LAWL LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY SPILLED PAINT IN THE GARAGE

*HI FIVE*

*BRO GRAB*

Repeatedly pointing out how dumb you are and how hypocritical you are - isn't being offended. I'll just add it to the list of words you don't seem to understand the meaning of.

Were any of the people arguing against Wil and spanking as a punishment, spanked as a child?

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My dad hit me once and I advised him to never do that again.

I do suspect I suffered a lot less head trauma as a child than Wil did.

I haven't read this thread since I posted about adolescents. I have raised 3 kids. I didn't spank them. Probably a good idea since they could probably kick the **** out of me now. To be semi serious, I think the "hay is in the barn" about 5 years of age or so. I read to my kids constantly up until they weren't that interested anymore. Adolescence is a challenging developmental stage. My wife, a very intelligent human being obviously, made me understand that teenage rebellion is a real thing and basically you need to give them some space, embrace their friends. But yeah, for me, corporal punishment was never part of the process.

portrait of the wil as a young man:

That video makes me sick.

WTF did I just see.

In her defense though, at least she didn't give the child a light slap to discipline them!

You can disagree with me, but if you truly think I'm "dumb", that's up to you. My concern is for the welfare and best interests of the child. People are different and they react differently to stimuli. I think many kids are absolutely fine without physical discipline. Some, maybe not.

As I've said, I'm open to many ideas, dependent on the situation at hand. I think almost all situations can be handled without any type of physical discipline. Some may need to be more forceful. Situations dictate the severity of the punishment.

I couldn't disagree more about the cop situation, though. The children knew not to pick up that gun, and definitely knew not to point it and pull the trigger. Lives were at stake, so I think physical discipline was warranted in that instance.

We view things differently. I'm just more honest than the majority of you. If I think it's in the best interest of the child, I'm OK with physical discipline.

If I think it's in the best interest of the child I'm ok with physical discipline too. If I think it's in the best interest of the child I'm ok with sex Ed being taught using two midgets copulating in the middle of the classroom.

The point is that you think there are cases, and you've given some horrifically bad examples, where you actually think physical violence was in the best interest of the child.

And you can try to keep dodging this fact. And keep trying to rewrite your posting history. And keep misunderstanding what simple words mean. But the rest of us see through you.

More mind-reading. You can claim to "see through" me all you wish, the thought of that is laughable.

Maybe you'd be surprised at how little you, your life, and especially your opinion of me matters, except for you to feel better about your own life.

How is it mind reading? It's all based on the words you've written right here.

But yes, I do feel better about my life (and my kids life!) when I engage with you.

Heh, well you have no need to. Everything about their lives are borderline idyllic, in every category. I guess denouncing people on the internet is something that scratches an itch for you, but it seems pretty pathetic to me.

What are you doing in this thread?

Arguing over your stupidity, obviously. You've already admitted that you'd be open to physical discipline if you deemed it necessary. I think the majority of people feel that way. We are currently arguing the actual circumstances where that is warranted.

Hah, so when you do it, it's not pathetic?

Remember back to the very beginning of our conversation? My point was that it's never been shown to me an example where physical violence was necessary or the best parenting move.

You keep trying to rephrase the debate to make yourself seem more reasonable. But the point is that you clearly feel there ARE times its best. And every example you've shown has been ridiculously bad.

So uh, yeah.

Oh yeah, we also had TS come in here and give his hot take on physical violence that made no sense. And of course then he disappeared and never talked about it again.