The state of affairs in PUC is really unacceptable. I come here for entertaining reading material and to participate in spirited banter about current events, and instead Spank Hate keeps creeping into everything I come across. It's frankly getting in the way of my enjoyment factor and I suspect that's true for others.

I'll just go ahead and say I'd take SM2 back to avoid the incessant whining we've been experiencing about Spank which, so far as I remember, started with SM2's eventual ban. S***, SM2 was a racist PoS, no doubt, but he also could be entertaining. If nothing else he was fun to f*** with from time to time.

What do you all think? Status quo or bring back the silver man and avoid the drama?

wtf is this private pole bull****?

Man, you must be groin-grabbingly stupid if you think bringing sm2 back would enhance the current situation.

Your degree come wrapped around a piece of bazooka joe?

We definitely needed another thread about this...

The point is that I would prefer having a racist PoS regularly posting here than having to deal with your hate-fueled charge against the mod. It pollutes all of PUC, finding its way into each and every thread.

Honest question: When does it stop? Assuming Spank doesn't get de-modded, when do you stop your gripe campaign?

I stop when he stops. Then he brings it back up again.

Why does only spank get to bring it back up again and is not okay for anyone else to respond to him? Why are you biased in his favor?

I see a dozen dudes demanding X Y and Z from the mod, actively pursuing their goals in various threads, and going about it aggressively. I've far more often seen Spank at least claim to try to take the high road and resist responding, or say he thinks the ongoing drama is bad for the forum. It's my perception and certainly might be off.

Honestly, all I really see from you et al is a bunch of crying and blaming. It's pervasive and off putting. I want to stop reading about it and think the sooner your crusade ends the better for all involved.

If you can't or won't take the time to consider the order of how things are happening, I don't really need to try to convince you of anything because you're too biased to care about the truth

It would be like if I suddenly made a thread to ask you to stop looking at child porn, and when you reply that you don't look at it, I follow up by insisting that it really disturbs me how much child porn you look at.

This would be a good thread to mock for a couple of pages then lock up.

LK, bottom line is I don't think Spank is going anywhere anytime soon which, if true, makes your little campaign a very unnecessary pain in the a** for everyone not in your little clique. It would be big of you to chill the f*** out, and stop with the drama fest.

Bitterman, when will you stop looking at child porn?

Can't stop what hasn't started. When will Captain Futile Persecution take off his cape?

Dunno, send spank a pm and ask

Probably correct.

I haven't done anything to deserve de-modding (imo) and I won't.

Do you notice who keeps "bringing it up" and that it is not me? Everybody can see.

Spank, you're a bad liar. And you sound like a crazy person with that 'everyone can see' crap

Please stop. You are only hurting yourself and everyone can see.

What about some neutral way to resolve the conflict?

Like, we could do a twist on the evens/odds RNG game. One of you picks evens, the other gets odds. You both PM me a number 1-10. I add them together. Whoever correctly picked evens/odds gets the last word; a 250 word thrashing of the other party. The other party doesn't get to respond and the conflict ends...at least in PUC. Breach of these rules results in a 1 week ban.

Deal???

Dib,

You should realize this whole forum's existence is a commentary on the ideals of anarchism, and it doesn't look too good from where I'm sitting

Isn't the whining because it took too long to ban SM2? How would bringing him back fix that?

Yes the whining is worse than SM2 was. And it's gone on for months now.

My OP was poorly worded. My point was that, hypothetically, I'd rather have SM2 back than continue swimming through the mod bashing s***storm we've had as of late. That guy was bad for business, but what we've got now is considerably worse.

agree

I'm not all that familiar with how this works, but as a mod I think it's gotta be tough to use planned ignoring when 3-5 threads are dedicated to the topic and it spils over into most all others.

Pretty sure the onus is on the mob. They should take their collective concerns to whoever oversees you and dedicate a containment thread to their ranting. They're doing the forum a great deal of harm by not containing their issue with you, and the non-containment is similarly doing their little cause a great disservice. The uncontrolled raving is just bad all around and needs to stop.

Say 'please stop' until it does is actual professional advice I received on the matter. Anyone can pitch in and help.

That and simply move past the, uh, "concerns" and continue doing what we have done to make unchained a place we like to frequent. Things were great until modding became an issue by a few and a mod did not respond well. That mod has learning capability FYI.

That means it is almost time for a new music thread!

Perhaps you don't remember this long ago, but we did just that. And the overseer shipped the thread back here, thus creating an additional thread about moderation itf. So I think the site owner has different preferences than you.

It would be lovely to have it all contained in one area, I agree. But that would require spank moving his little jabs immediately after making them. The rest of us do not have that authority.

Also, it does seem a bit hypocritical for someone who started another thread to complain that too many threads are being created.

Spank could easily take the initiative and merge all these new threads into one complainer mega thread. I fear doing so might anger the allies he has, such as dib, who've created offshoot threads. (Not dib specifically, actually, I don't think he'd care all that much. But like the agile modding thread or wtf ever)

@spank Take the above advice with a grain of salt. One of the cardinal sins that got someone demodded from 4L was tampering with threads and posts for his own selfish reasons. But reducing extraneous threads and concentrating conversation, I doubt would be considered extraneous so much as improvement

#freeSM2