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03-23-2017 , 07:14 AM
Thats not my posts point.



You said can you figure out how to pay so innocents dont pay.

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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Theoretically, that all makes sense. That's why socialism sounds so attractive on the surface. It's an easy argument for you to make when focusing on the goodness and fairness of it all. Can you figure out a way to make it work in the real world where no innocents have to pay for something they didn't wrought?
I gave a reason why thats is no excuse and bad reasoning.


As far as actual victims. Can we start with the victims of Jim Crow who are alive?

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03-23-2017 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Let me know when they boil somebody alive in a shower and no one presses charges.
Take a look back at this story in a month or so. It is likely to be proven false similar to the wide spread belief that a bunch of hateful people came out of the woodwork when goaTRUMP won to place bomb threats at JCCs around the country and mike brown being a innocent sweet kid who had his hands up.

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Originally Posted by 13ball
DAs aren't judges.

I'm going to assume racism until thoroughly disproven. Got to got with inductive reasoning here.
Sounds like typical liberal thinking. Everything is racist until proven not to be a conservative.
03-23-2017 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Take a look back at this story in a month or so. It is likely to be proven false similar to the wide spread belief that a bunch of hateful people came out of the woodwork when goaTRUMP won to place bomb threats at JCCs around the country and mike brown being a innocent sweet kid who had his hands up.
A guy died in a shower while being punished and they didn't do an autopsy for three years. But keep defending this. It's a great look.

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Sounds like typical liberal thinking. Everything is racist until proven not to be a conservative.
Knowledge of history is a liberal thing, I guess.
03-23-2017 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Knowledge is a liberal thing, I guess.
fyp
03-23-2017 , 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Theoretically, that all makes sense. That's why socialism sounds so attractive on the surface. It's an easy argument for you to make when focusing on the goodness and fairness of it all. Can you figure out a way to make it work in the real world where no innocents have to pay for something they didn't wrought?
If the people are dead and their estates distributed to a large number of heirs over multiple generations then obviously there is no way to do it that cleanly.

Which is I'm sure one of many reasons why the vast majority of civil rights activists don't even bother bringing up the idea of reparations that cross generational lines.

But also, like i said, because if you do believe in the idea of fairness then you're not nearly as concerned with keeping exact tabs on who would have inherited what as you are with people who've had such crap parents that they're both broke and functionally ******ed from nutritional deficiencies and developmental issues related to ineffective parenting (or sometimes just chance genetic defects). These are the weak people that trump types look down at with disdain. The working class people that he's spent his whole life exploiting almost like a sport.

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As I've said, it's not a problem for me when the actual victim is getting paid.
Which basically means if you can get away with it for long enough it becomes legitimate (or just kill the victims).
03-25-2017 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Let me know when they boil somebody alive in a shower and no one presses charges.
We established that this allegation was thoroughly unproven.

Yet you insist it happened.

Lol.
03-26-2017 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AppleCrumble
We established that this allegation was thoroughly unproven.

Yet you insist it happened.

Lol.
No one even investigated the allegation. For years. No autopsy for years.

Defend that, genius.
03-28-2017 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
A guy died in a shower while being punished and they didn't do an autopsy for three years. But keep defending this. It's a great look.

Knowledge of history is a liberal thing, I guess.
I am not defending what the guards did or the people who should have done/ordered an autopsy (if they didn't do one for 3 yrs). I am just suggesting we pump the breaks a bit on assuming all this occurred because the guards were white and the criminal was black.
03-28-2017 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
It takes a long time to do research well. I don't think the '03 study is suddenly irrelevant. Would I love it if interesting research got updated every 3 years? Yes. Is that going to happen any time soon? No. There's not enough funding.



You seem to have misapprehended the purpose of the research, which is not to prove that "some people are racist." The purpose of the study is to investigate the impact of incarceration on employment, including racial differences in impacts, and then to suggest policy ideas that might mitigate those impacts in order to allow ex-inmates to reintegrate into society better. Like most research, they try to fill in gaps from previous research, for example by collecting data from a different geographical area, and by looking at impacts to women as well as men.



First, they took steps to mitigate the kind of confounding variables you mention. That is, they trained the applicants (p. 25-26), so there's no question of racial or gender differences in preparation between applicants, nor of problems speaking the language. Secondly, these aren't really interviews, they are in-person applications for low-level jobs. Third, their results are both consistent with prior research and replicate results from resume-only studies where your concerns don't apply. The consistency suggests that these kinds of explanations aren't sufficient.




Again, you seem to misunderstand the purpose of the research, but, considering just how much research there is that finds racial bias in so many contexts using so many different methods, your first suggestion seems quite dubious.

However, it is also true that research into racial inequality is not actually meant to conclude that all white people are consciously and intentionally racist. I've talked about this before. It is undoubtedly true that, in part, the persistence of racial inequality in wealth and income is a result of pre-existing inequality as a result of past racist policy, whether or not that same racism continues in the same ways. In other words, black people are way more likely than white people to live in concentrated poverty, in single-family homes, with less access to good education, and less resources, and that undoubtedly has an impact on employment. Not all of that impact is explained by individuals expressing individual prejudices, but it is very much a consequence of "racism" understood more broadly.

There is an enormous body of evidence that connects present inequality to a combination of structural factors with long histories as well as persistent prejudicial attitudes which help to reinforce the structural factors already mentioned. This is "racism" but it doesn't reduce to just individuals. But this explanation is for more compelling than just wondering aloud whether maybe black people just really are inherently "different", i.e inferior at getting jobs.
I haven't caught up to the thread but there was a new study a few days ago.

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Using carefully designed test resumes submitted for job openings, the researchers found that black graduates of elite universities such as Harvard, Stanford, and Duke were as likely to get responses from employers than white graduates of much less prestigious state colleges, such as University of California, Riverside, the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, and University of North Carolina, Greensboro.
https://qz.com/357445/black-harvard-...college-grads/
03-28-2017 , 01:31 PM
Looks like it was published in 2014 using data collected in 2011. Thanks for posting it, it's always nice to have another data point.

You can find the text here: http://academic.oup.com.secure.sci-h...1093/sf/sou111
03-31-2017 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AppleCrumble
Meh. Most people agree with me rather than you.

They don't even get angry either.

They just roll their eyes and get on with it.
It doesn't matter how many people agree with the "victim mentality" accusation you have repeated .

Even if the appeal to popularity you make here were true, it doesn't mean that the assertion you made about victim mentality is true or that it is relevant to any actual people who experience trauma.

It looks like you and the folks you believe agree with you don't know what they are talking about. Considering the seriousness and complexity of trauma, it looks very foolish to talk out of one's ass like that. No wonder folks get angry at you.
04-01-2017 , 09:41 PM
Important thread on Trump voters and race:

https://twitter.com/polotek/status/848319205971591168
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I think it's important to keep reading these. We need to understand these people. Including realizing that this is exactly what they want.

Marco Rogers added,
Nicholas KristofVerified account @NickKristof
My Sunday column, just posted: In Trump country, some supporters are aghast to see Trump budget cuts whacking them https://nyti.ms/2nINPsR

Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

Replying to @polotek

The thing to recognize in all these stories is that the WWC doesn't actually understand where all the "wasteful spending" actually goes.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

They take advantage of govt programs and they don't want those to go away. They imagine some other terrible things their taxes go towards.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

This article also makes it clear these ignorant assumptions are rooted in bigotry. "Obama phones" is exactly the narrative they look for.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

What these folks believe is that good govt programs are few and far between, while most spending goes to handouts to lazy, shiftless PoC.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

This has been the narrative. This is why we talk about white supremacy. This is why we talk about the original sin of this nation.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

It still affects everything today. This is the reason there is a dangerous, ignorant, bigoted con man in the White House.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

Because so many white people still prefer to be conned by a white man than support programs that help non-white people.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

We have to accept this truth. Until we can acknowledge this reality in unflinching racial terms, this will keep happening.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

All these calls to "reach out" to these people will fail because everybody wants to soften the message.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

Nobody wants to tell these people "You keep voting for racism. You should stop doing that."
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

Bernie Sander is a self-avowed socialist, but he is still afraid to talk about racism.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

They shut down the reading of Coretta Scott King's letter against Jeff Sessions because they don't wanna talk about racism.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

They use MLK's legacy to silence black folks and keep us from talking about racism.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

Until we can talk about racism, this country's progress will be stilted. Our "freedom" will be bull****. Our patriotism will be bull****.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

And white people who resent being forced to talk about racism will continue to support policies that punish PoC.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

Make no mistake. That's what this is. It's punitive. They like their free programs. But programs that help PoC must be "wasteful".
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

The article called out that the "Obama phones" program was NOT started by Obama and also NOT funded by taxpayers.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

But so what if it was? People need phones. The problem is not the phones. The problem is who is getting them and who they think started it.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

It's not free phones that is "wasteful". It's helping PoC. We are a waste. That's what white supremacy has told them their whole lives.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

That's what their politicians have told them. That's what the news has told them. That's what movies and TV have told them.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 2h2 hours ago

That's what their schools have told them. That's what their employers tell them. That's what rich people they aspire to be tell them.
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Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 1h1 hour ago

White supremacy is the foundation of almost every American institution. That's what we've been saying. If you want change, start there.
07-26-2017 , 02:07 AM
Social Justice Warriors



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7859756.html
07-26-2017 , 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
ANTIFA better look out.
07-26-2017 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
This is real courage. Amazing!
07-26-2017 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
ANTIFA better look out.
The anti fascist should look out for the people killing fascists. Some of you fascists right wing extremist have interesting minds.
07-26-2017 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
The anti fascist should look out for the people killing fascists. Some of you fascists right wing extremist have interesting minds.
Because if there's one thing Antifa doesn't do, it's deploy fascist tactics.
07-26-2017 , 02:03 PM
I there is one thing right wing extremists do is make words meaningless.
07-26-2017 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
I there is one thing right wing extremists do is make words meaningless.
Sing it with me.

"Because all my enemies are Nazis. Those racist, bigot, homophobes."

LOL!!
07-26-2017 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Sing it with me.



"Because all my enemies are Nazis. Those racist, bigot, homophobes."



LOL!!


An intentionally making a mockery of prejudice and discrimination for one's own amusement. Tell DoOrDont we have a live one for his hunt and rankery.
07-26-2017 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Sing it with me.

"Because all my enemies are Nazis. Those racist, bigot, homophobes."

LOL!!
Nah I know plenty of reps and even trump voters that don't fit the above. Try again.
07-29-2017 , 02:56 PM
OH NO THE SJWs GOT TO STONE COLD!!!!!!





08-02-2017 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Yes, those are proper social justice warriors, unlike the ironically named variety we have here who would dismiss them as "house Arabs" or "race traitors" if they dared speak a poor word about the ideology ISIS embraces.

It's amazing that none of the "SJW's" blink an eye at the well deserved criticism of Christianity, and it's various forms, and if there were a group of fascists named CSIS trying to provoke Armageddon, they would speak of nothing else. But because of the mindset they've fallen into, they can think of nothing but power and identity, and we must all watch what we say about Islam.
08-02-2017 , 08:29 PM
How many pro ISIS posts have you read lately?
08-02-2017 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Yes, those are proper social justice warriors, unlike the ironically named variety we have here who would dismiss them as "house Arabs" or "race traitors"...
I'm calling for a cite here. Has anyone ever in any published source called the folks in the pix "House Arabs" y/o "Race Traitors"? I'm guessing no.

Citation_Needed.bullcrap !!!1!
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How many pro ISIS posts have you read lately?
Well, I make pro-ISIS posts here in Los Dos Politardia. Nobody has ever done whatever it is that is said done to whoever these mysterious SJWers happen to be.

In fact, let's try an experiment right here ITT.

I'll post some pro-ISIS stuff, and then we'll see who the SJWers really are... because we all know those pesky SJWers... they'll surely swoop in and do whatever it is it is said they'll do, which may be "Shouting Down", we're not really sure... but they'll do it, that's one thing we can count on. OK here goes...
Neo-Goreans are pro-Isis because Isis is into female sex slaves.
OK... let's give it what... 20 posts. Then we'll run the tape back, and surely then we'll have captured us some of those pesky SJWers red handed !!!1!

      
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