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02-09-2017 , 06:56 PM
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02-09-2017 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
The statement itself, whether Churchill actually said it or not, is pretty accurate nonetheless.
Accurate is a pretty word, but nonetheless that doesn't mean the statement is accurately targeting fascists acting like anti-fascists.

Now if we are at the point where social justice is opposite fascist justice, then yes, social justice is driven by excellence like honest which is opposite fascist justice which is dishonest and lies about whatever.
02-09-2017 , 07:22 PM
Flip the script

"The alt-write and republicans 45 made us become SJWs becuase they are fascists"

hehehehe
02-09-2017 , 08:12 PM
SJWs oppose and try to shut down free speech.

Shutting down free speech is one of the major tenets of fascism.

Ipso facto, SJWs are the new fascists.
02-09-2017 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
SJWs oppose and try to shut down free speech.

Shutting down free speech is one of the major tenets of fascism.

Ipso facto, SJWs are the new fascists.
Well, says you about them and that is like both social and fascist justice.

You appear to have left out the free speech of the SJWs fyi
02-09-2017 , 08:32 PM
SJWs are entitled to free speech just like anybody else.

However they are not entitled to shut down others exercising their right to free speech, through the use of physical violence or intimidation.

That's called fascism.
02-09-2017 , 08:40 PM
What do SJWs on private forums do, exactly, that is so bad?
02-09-2017 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
What do SJWs on private forums do, exactly, that is so bad?
Tell lies, use foul language, make false accusations, spam post nonsense.

That sort of thing.
02-09-2017 , 08:55 PM
Ah so you mean what wil does.
02-09-2017 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Tell lies, use foul language, make false accusations, spam post nonsense.

That sort of thing.
That's exactly an incomplete list of attributes of people arguing.

Your impression of SJWs is almost anyone who argues according to the range of rules of where ever anyone may argue.
02-09-2017 , 10:28 PM
That was my impression of SJWs in these forums, specifically in answer to kerewo's question.

My initial post was more applicable to SJWs irl, i.e. the ones that try to shutdown free speech by using violent and intimidatory tactics.
02-09-2017 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
That was my impression of SJWs in these forums, specifically in answer to kerewo's question.

My initial post was more applicable to SJWs irl, i.e. the ones that try to shutdown free speech by using violent and intimidatory tactics.
So you declare who ever fits the description of social justice is violent and intimidating in general? So as to say social justice equals violent and intimidation generally speaking?

Like if millions of people acted together on one day, like the day after inauguration, in a organized movement of social justice, it would be a huge violent and intimidating event according to your general statement here? eh?

have you read 1984?
02-09-2017 , 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Wow. He predicted SJWs.
Wow. You fell for a laughably obvious fake quote.
02-10-2017 , 12:10 AM
No. Not at all.

I was more interested in the relevance of the message rather than it's authenticity.
02-10-2017 , 05:13 AM
It does not really matter if Churchill did or did not say that. What matters is the message.
02-10-2017 , 06:25 AM
SJWs main concern isn't just "stopping free speech". You're allowed to say whatever hateful thing you want, but they are effectively trying to stop people with ****ty views from having ****ty laws enacted that are unconstitutional and/or oppressive to people.
02-10-2017 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Lord_Crispen
SJWs main concern isn't just "stopping free speech". You're allowed to say whatever hateful thing you want, but they are effectively trying to stop people with ****ty views from having ****ty laws enacted that are unconstitutional and/or oppressive to people.
Complete nonsense.
02-10-2017 , 08:45 AM
In your video about the comic, you made an argument about an offensive comment being "just a joke". I don't know how the common perception of Poles (Polish citizens) is in your country, but there is a common thought here in the US that Polish people are dumb. This widespread stereotype-like view comes from all the jokes we heard growing up. "How do you get a one armed Polak out of a tree? You wave." Even just now I didn't realize that Polak is a bit of a slur and I'm using it here just for the point I'm trying to make. I'll try to stop using it in the future.

The point is, even if it's just a joke, these harmful things can stick in the brain of society and become sort of truths. The whole "Dumb Polish joke" thing apparently came about before WWII and was a form of propaganda put forth by Hitler (lol Godwin's law anyone?) to start making everyone think less of the Poles.

So, now millions of people have this idea in their head and everyone wants to be funny, so they retell the jokes, perpetuating the slurs and the negative thoughts in the minds of society. I hope we can at least agree this has a negative effect on the people it covers.


It's the same with any joke. It's the same with words that some people don't want to have others use about them. Whether this is a black guy that doesn't want to be called the N word, or kids calling each others ******s even used with non-homophobic intentions, it all stays in the collective conscious of society and it makes it more okay to perpetuate it because "We're just kidding".

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that when you joke around with your buddies that you don't mean anything truly hurtful or negative about it. But when you know that using the slur "tranny" is hurtful to someone that goes through their childhood and their adulthood being looked down on by the world around them and you continue to use it because "**** that noise, you can't word police me!", then maybe just don't use it? I don't know.

Last edited by Lord_Crispen; 02-10-2017 at 08:50 AM.
02-10-2017 , 08:55 AM
I'd love to write something more profound here, but the bottom line comes down to this:

"Buckle up snowflake"

Now, me, I don't really tell jokes of that nature, and I generally don't go around saying things that will likely offend people.

BUT

There'll always be people who do, and if that's the price to pay for a more liberal society, then that's the price to pay.

Alternative:

Suppress them, make them angry, they literally will elect Trump.

Those are the alternatives.

You can't have both. Only one. The situation of both can't arise, because there'll always be people who want to tell the jokes. Proof: 2017. That's 30 years of PC policing that has utterly failed to stop people wanting to tell the jokes.

So buckle up and deal with it.

There's a line, obviously, but in short: just deal with it.
02-10-2017 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
Complete nonsense.
Then your contention is that a social justice warrior only hopes to limit free speech and has no interest in preventing laws they perceive as oppressive is it?
02-10-2017 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
I'd love to write something more profound here, but the bottom line comes down to this:

"Buckle up snowflake"
So you don't perceive why someone would be offended at anything or you just don't care? I'm not sure why I feel the answer to this matters, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.
02-10-2017 , 09:25 AM
So SJWs are like an imaginary enemy supremacists have conjured to gossip about and attach with actual people that the supremacists don't know and have rarely if ever met. What other rumors about "SJWs" y'all got?
02-10-2017 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
No. Not at all.

I was more interested in the relevance of the message rather than it's authenticity.
The relevance of a prediction is somewhat mitigated by not being a prediction at all.

Rather than being about the future, it's just some troll making up a line about people he doesn't like.

Basically, to anyone remotely informed, it reads "SJWs are fascists", which is pure spew that apparently you think carries deep insight.
02-10-2017 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
It does not really matter if Churchill did or did not say that. What matters is the message.
No, the "message" is a lie trying to game gravitas because of who said it. So when you see that posted you don't think about the message you think about the lie. If you want to promote the message do it in a way that isn't lying.
02-10-2017 , 10:06 AM
The message is entirely true.

      
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