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Well good. If you condemn that then good. That's what we need more of. It's ****ing weird as hell to see all this violence and shutting down of speech from the left side of the aisle. I'm used to worrying about right wing religious zealots, been running away from them all my life. But now we have them on all sides and there's nowhere to hide.

I can't figure out if I'll be protesting Trump next week or the idiot little Robespierres. If this country ends up in a civil war over this BS, I'm coming to Canada and ****ing all your women.

Yeah, it was the Milo thread but Dan and I went over all that a day ago.
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02-02-2017 , 07:28 PM

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Make no mistake what side Wil is on. He is for the side openly advocating white supremacy, the death of all black people and everyone else who they disagree with. Hint: When you think that people who oppose *literal nazis* are more disliked than nazis, you've lost the plot. You have so, so many meltdowns. I almost wished you would have actually welched and gotten banned rather than still having your content on this forum to be read by anybody.

The "SJW" is someone who makes this type of argument.

02-02-2017 , 07:31 PM

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So, do you agree that SJW are more dangerous than those floating ideas of concentration camps and genocide? One dude got sucker punched and the left had a massive huddle to see if that was ok and came back with "probably" after two weeks. The alt right responds with "guess we have to murder you all now" and yeah, guess which side Wil finds most dangerous.

02-02-2017 , 07:33 PM

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I'm on the side of respecting others people's rights to disagree. I'm OK with idiots having opinions I disagree with. I'm not OK with attacking them and silencing them based on another person's judgement of what is "hate speech".

If anyone here is having a meltdown it's you. Lol @ your hatred of me and sounding like your about to burst into years. Awwww, you OK bro? You need a hug? Maybe you can borrow one of those Clinton therapy dogs, homie.

Watching you melt down into a frothy, emotional mess is amusing. Calm down and go eat some kale chips or something.

02-02-2017 , 07:34 PM

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It is possible to be on neither side of that mess, you know. Like, literally fighting with the alt-right white supremacists is sort of stupid, don't you get that?

02-02-2017 , 07:37 PM

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It is possible to be on neither side of that mess, you know. Like, literally fighting with the alt-right white supremacists is sort of stupid, don't you get that?

Sure, but eventually it has to be done. Their growing influence leads to more attacks on minorities, as we saw in Quebec.

Wil, tell me how anyone has had their speech "silenced' lately? Spencer and Milo are more popular than ever. It's also no surprise that when confronted with the tweets of Spencer floating the idea of concentration camps for those who disagree with his nazi agenda, that got a giant shrug from Mr. respect the rights of others. The alt right does not "respect the rights of others." The GOP does not respect the rights of everybody.

02-02-2017 , 07:39 PM

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It is possible to be on neither side of that mess, you know. Like, literally fighting with the alt-right white supremacists is sort of stupid, don't you get that?

But fighting with SJWs is not only smart, you encourage all leftists and liberals to regularly condemn them.

02-02-2017 , 07:40 PM

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You actually just answered your question. How have we fought white supremacy for years? Not by punching them in public, not by trying to silence them. By letting them spew their garbage, making much better arguments and watching them fade away into obscurity. Listen to the ACLU, fight hate speech with more speech. What you are advocating is only making them stronger, as you seem to acknowledge.

02-02-2017 , 07:41 PM

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Yeah, it was the Milo thread but Dan and I went over all that a day ago.
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-40 F or -40 C?

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02-02-2017 , 07:42 PM

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Wil, tell me how anyone has had their speech "silenced' lately? Spencer and Milo are more popular than ever. It's also no surprise that when confronted with the tweets of Spencer floating the idea of concentration camps for those who disagree with his nazi agenda, that got a giant shrug from Mr. respect the rights of others. The alt right does not "respect the rights of others." The GOP does not respect the rights of everybody.

I have to explain to you how people won't disagree with you in public? Really ? Really?

You know all those people who stand there silent when you're ranting and raving at work about some new injustice of yours? THEY DISAGREE WITH YOU.

02-02-2017 , 07:45 PM

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But fighting with SJWs is not only smart, you encourage all leftists and liberals to regularly condemn them.

Not sure if I get this or if it's your first time with sarcasm :P

Anyway, I'm not advocating punching "SJW"s, and I'm not advocating silencing them. I don't even really like the term, but it's a thread about it so there you go. I'm advocating making better arguments than they are, and showing why what they are doing, the illiberal faction of the social justice left, is so harmful and only helps create the monsters we all want to destroy.

02-02-2017 , 07:48 PM

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Better arguments than "you don't agree with punching Nazis in the street, therefore you must be a Nazi also who advocates black genocide"

02-02-2017 , 08:02 PM

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Better arguments than "you don't agree with punching Nazis in the street, therefore you must be a Nazi also who advocates black genocide"

Exactly. If you don't support Spencer being physically assaulted in the street then YOU are advocating black genocide.

It's a joke. The more someone denounces someone as a racist bigot the more clout they get. Maybe it'll get to the point where white liberals just start mass murdering "racists" so they can be the super alpha of the beta dorks.

02-02-2017 , 08:07 PM

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Better arguments than "you don't agree with punching Nazis in the street, therefore you must be a Nazi also who advocates black genocide"

That is a bad argument. Glad no one actually made it.

02-02-2017 , 08:12 PM

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I don't think Wil ever engages honestly, foldn. I do not respect Wil. I do not care if Wil respects me. He will never post evidence as part of his claims.

You can think it, you can post about it in !!! threads but in content threads, if you don't want to engage with someone then your only option is to not engage with them silently.

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I'm not staying. Just wanted to point out Lords dumb****ery for his new audience since he completely infested the pog politics thread with it. Good luck all, add him to the pile.

Stay or don't but opinions on posters are not acceptable in content threads. Take it to the !!! threads please.

EVERYONE: reminder this is a content thread.

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02-02-2017 , 08:15 PM

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And why do you think their influence is growing?

I would suggest that they are more popular than ever precisely because of the violent attempts to shut them down. I also think it is more likely the suppression of free speech, diversity of opinion and debate indirectly leads to incidents like the one in Quebec rather than preventing them.

02-02-2017 , 08:20 PM

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It's probably a combination of that and bringing attention to them. Most people have no idea who Milo is. When the nightly news leads with a story about protests at Berkeley about some guy, they may investigate. People at my work that are over 40 have no idea who Milo is. My wife doesn't know who Milo is. But with enough news about it more of them will find out about him and I'm sure it'll lead to some of them agreeing with him.

02-02-2017 , 08:27 PM

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Yeah, I meant it gives them far more attention than they deserve or otherwise would have got.

They are probably deliriously happy with all the attention.

02-02-2017 , 08:54 PM

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For someone like Milo, absolutely.

02-02-2017 , 09:13 PM

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He has repeatedly accused me of being a white supremacist, despite blatantly not being one, so I will not talk to him.

You outed yourself with the obama equals trump nonsense.

When clear evidence proved you wrong, you couldnt even acknowledge it. You just kept it moving onto next attack and talking point.

If you want an honest convo, then admit when your point has been debunked with facts.

02-03-2017 , 02:37 AM

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The fuss was over him donating the money, not for holding the opinion.

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Brenden Eich. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-26868536

Whether you agree with his politics, things are getting pretty crazy when your job is at risk for having an opinion most Christians have.

I wonder if that may have scared the evangelicals into voting for someone who read to them from "Two" Corinthians?

If we could only explain to them that the Muslims also hate the gays, maybe they'd wise up... or maybe we'd be fired for saying that. Who knows these days.

02-03-2017 , 03:08 AM

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FoldN, who just hates people being insufferable, is strangely a big fan of Bill Mahr.

They seem to only be a fan of the insufferable parts. I'm a long time Maher fan but when he gets going like in that clip, I face palm and say, "Whelp, Bill, can't win 'em all I guess."

02-03-2017 , 03:11 AM

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Seriously, your behavior is what we are talking about. You just went ape**** on wil for no reason. That's just weird... do you not get why? And you seem to have no clue about the type of violence that have been going on at the Milo protests. Clearly no slippery slope... http://www.ottawasun.com/2017/02/02/...demonstrations

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The video in that link shows a man who was there to stand up for free speech with a bloody nose. And the girl got pepper sprayed for wearing a red hat. Dude, this **** is terrible and it's only a matter of time before someone get's killed. Over Milo, FFS.

You cannot bring yourself to see why this is terrible publicity for the social justice cause, or is this what the greater cause is really about? I don't think so. Violently shutting down political speech under the guise of stopping fascism, it better not be. It's hard to tell though, maybe Well Named can step in and explain.

I thought we had pulled you back into orbit but now you're out there in the oort cloud. You're incapable of having an honest conversation about any of this.

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02-03-2017 , 03:16 AM

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hey look people got all mad and stuff at this guy for doing some weird wave and wearing a patch with squiggly lines on it like omg wtf

<Nazi photo removed>

For mother****'s sake.

C'mon we really don't need to fill up threads with photos of hitler and nazis to make your point

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02-03-2017 , 03:28 AM

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Again, the SJW in this case is the person who thinks "nazis are bad." The SJW thinks Richard Spencer should be ashamed to further his thoughts on black genocide. The SJW is "the most dangerous people he's ever seen" meanwhile the person he is defending is saying...

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Make no mistake what side Wil is on. He is for the side openly advocating white supremacy, the death of all black people and everyone else who they disagree with. Hint: When you think that people who oppose *literal nazis* are more disliked than nazis, you've lost the plot. You have so, so many meltdowns. I almost wished you would have actually welched and gotten banned rather than still having your content on this forum to be read by anybody.

Fwiw I don't think he's savvy nor aware enough to really realize what he' saying. And I think that applies to a lot of these people.

He can't even keep the talking points straight in 2 subsequent posts:

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This is why your group is despised by EVERYBODY. Everything about you people is feelings and what you deem how the world should be. Throw logic and fairness out the window, just make sure everyone feels good about themselves.

When I say you people are the most dangerous people I've ever seen, I'm not exaggerating. It's utterly horrifying that this religious mind-virus is a real thing. The end is coming for you people and I just can't wait to dance on your graves.

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I'm on the side of respecting others people's rights to disagree. I'm OK with idiots having opinions I disagree with. I'm not OK with attacking them and silencing them based on another person's judgement of what is "hate speech".

If anyone here is having a meltdown it's you. Lol @ your hatred of me and sounding like your about to burst into years. Awwww, you OK bro? You need a hug? Maybe you can borrow one of those Clinton therapy dogs, homie.

Watching you melt down into a frothy, emotional mess is amusing. Calm down and go eat some kale chips or something.

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