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02-02-2017 , 04:42 PM
Yes, he's our president in part because half the country (most who already have their own religion) didn't want to go near yours. Guys like you have quite literally driven the world batty.
02-02-2017 , 04:43 PM
Again, I'm a Canadian who has voted conservative the majority of their young lives. Nice read sir. Our election was a year before yours. Identity and anti immigrant policies were floated and struck down. Maybe we just didn't stay as uninformed.

I was hoping for an honest response to what I gave you rather than a "thats why trump got elected." Why do I ever give you any credit?
02-02-2017 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Again, I'm a Canadian who has voted conservative the majority of their young lives. Nice read sir. I was hoping for an honest response to what I gave you rather than a "thats why trump got elected." Why do I ever give you any credit?
You're outraged at us for not immediately answering your all stupid questions in the exact manner you would like. You demanded all the examples of people getting fired for twitter mobs, when that would take all day, and haven't even bothered to read those I posted. But you did defend shaming a rocket scientist for a silly shirt. You're unhinged. I don't know where it comes from... the anonymity of the internet combined with human stupidity produces a road rage of sorts.
02-02-2017 , 04:56 PM
Hahaha, it's not a real game, Depression Quest. Play for yourself. I'm not responsible for your life choices while playing this game btw.

http://www.depressionquest.com

I am deeply confused. Was the original idea to get the game published, and make money? Because this is like a baby step before suicide hotline. I cannot fully express the lameness of this game.

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Haha, it's a "stand out", that's a good one. What a horrible critic.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/201...50-more-games/

Play the game for 5 minutes, and hahaha, tell me if it isn't a biased review somehow? I mean, maybe the critic is a sucker for the awareness bit or something.

Last edited by leavesofliberty; 02-02-2017 at 05:13 PM.
02-02-2017 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
You're outraged at us for not immediately answering your all stupid questions in the exact manner you would like. You demanded all the examples of people getting fired for twitter mobs, when that would take all day, and haven't even bothered to read those I posted. But you did defend shaming a rocket scientist for a silly shirt. You're unhinged. I don't know where it comes from... the anonymity of the internet combined with human stupidity produces a road rage of sorts.
Yes, people try to get people fired. THIS HAS ALWAYS HAPPENED. It isn't new. It isn't confined to one ideology.

The problem with your view is that you want to blame everything on SJWs--same as Lord. But you can't logically do so so you create this weird emotional argument that because a few people were targeted on Twitter that means people voted for Trump. Yet the objectively worse actions of the anti_SJWs are waved away and deemed unimportant.

There is definitely room to criticise some of the movements on college campuses and some of the social media group attacks. But you want to smear the entire left with those complaints and it isn't supported by logic or honesty.
02-02-2017 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty
Hahaha, it's not a real game, Depression Quest. Play for yourself. I'm not responsible for your life choices while playing this game btw.

http://www.depressionquest.com

I am deeply confused. Was the original idea to get the game published, and make money? Because this is like a baby step before suicide hotline. I cannot fully express the lameness of this game.
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The game tells the story of a person suffering from depression and their attempts to deal with their affliction. It was created to foster greater understanding about depression. Depression Quest can be played for free, and has a pay-what-you-want pricing model. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline receives part of the proceeds. Depression Quest was praised by critics for its portrayal of depression and its educational value. The game was noted for diverging from mainstream uses of video games as a medium.
It's not really made for entertainment, nor was it made to make money. Perhaps it fails or succeeds at its goal.

Just a reminder that very very very stupid gamers got mad at this game and then sent death threats to a bunch of women. Over nothing. This game is a threat to no one.
02-02-2017 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Yes, people try to get people fired. THIS HAS ALWAYS HAPPENED. It isn't new. It isn't confined to one ideology.

The problem with your view is that you want to blame everything on SJWs--same as Lord. But you can't logically do so so you create this weird emotional argument that because a few people were targeted on Twitter that means people voted for Trump. Yet the objectively worse actions of the anti_SJWs are waved away and deemed unimportant.

There is definitely room to criticise some of the movements on college campuses and some of the social media group attacks. But you want to smear the entire left with those complaints and it isn't supported by logic or honesty.
Well, we've found another mistake I can clear up real quick. I don't blame everything on "SJW", nor am I trying to smear the entire left with those complaints. Neither is Bill Maher here:



But you must reside in a bubble if you can't see how much and how often this silliness happens and how it effects our world politically. I mean, okay, it doesn't really bother you, and some of your friends here. Maybe, just maybe... could it be, perhaps, that you agree with like 99.9% of their ideas, so you have almost no experience dealing with their BS?

Guess what, it really does bother a lot of people, because not everyone agrees with you and them like 99.9% of the time about everything. And the insufferable nannying turns off way more people than it turns on, even sparking substantial backlashes and trolls like Milo Yabadabadoo to book deals. Wise up and tell your friends to stop feeding him, maybe condemn the violent protesters who keep trying to stop his campus speeches like the illiberal robespierres they are, and who will end up getting someone killed, for what?

Last edited by FoldnDark; 02-02-2017 at 05:27 PM.
02-02-2017 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
It's not really made for entertainment, nor was it made to make money. Perhaps it fails or succeeds at its goal.

Just a reminder that very very very stupid gamers got mad at this game and then sent death threats to a bunch of women. Over nothing. This game is a threat to no one.
True enough, perhaps it does succeed as a very depressing game. It's like the beep, beep, beep, public service announcement of games. As that I suppose it succeeds. I've already wasted too much time on this.

Yah, the lunatic 4channers who have nothing better to do than mash their keyboards, fap, and post pics who's sub/main objective is to get people to jump off a cliff. Why does anyone take them seriously? I feel like people are making them bigger than what they actually are. Just leave them to WoW-crack. Also, if Zoe Quinn wants to be taken seriously in the industry, why take nude pics of herself, and put them on the web? I mean, these are full-blown shoots, not like a shower selfie. It's like she wants to make a portfolio for Christ's sake.

Also, if you're depressed, I'd recommend Action/Adventure.

Last edited by leavesofliberty; 02-02-2017 at 05:36 PM.
02-02-2017 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Well, we've found another mistake I can clear up real quick. I don't blame everything on "SJW", nor am I trying to smear the entire left with those complaints.

But you must reside in a bubble if you can't see how much and how often this silliness happens and how it effects our world politically. I mean, okay, it doesn't really bother you, and some of your friends here. Maybe, just maybe... could it be, perhaps, that you agree with like 99.9% of their ideas, so you have almost no experience dealing with their BS?
Maybe I don't notice it because we have a president attempting to ban Muslims. We have people pushing propaganda and lies about black crime. Yeah, I can see not liking that some guy was harassed because of his stupid shirt. But the idiots on Twitter affecting a few people don't bother me because they are utterly insignificant. And your attempts to portray them as some sort of serious problem are not grounded in reality.

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Guess what, it really does bother a lot of people, because not everyone agrees with you and them like 99.9% of the time about everything. And the insufferable nannying turns off way more people than it turns on, even sparking substantial backlashes and trolls like Milo Yabadabadoo to book deals. Wise up and tell your friends to stop feeding him, maybe condemn the violent protesters who keep trying to stop his campus speeches like the illiberal robespierres they are, and who will end up getting someone killed, for what?
I don't control these people and I have said that the tactics against Milo are counterproductive.
02-02-2017 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
You're outraged at us for not immediately answering your all stupid questions in the exact manner you would like. You demanded all the examples of people getting fired for twitter mobs, when that would take all day, and haven't even bothered to read those I posted. But you did defend shaming a rocket scientist for a silly shirt. You're unhinged. I don't know where it comes from... the anonymity of the internet combined with human stupidity produces a road rage of sorts.
No, I mocked the example because of the banality of it. That seemed to go over your head.
Someone getting made fun of over a shirt or fired for calling a woman a slut just aren't problems I find worth devoting my time.

Again, a Milo supporter shot somebody outside a speech of his two weeks ago. This is so, so much worse than what any SJW has ever done to Milo or anyone against him. This gets a giant shrug to those supporting him.
02-02-2017 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty
True enough, perhaps it does succeed as a very depressing game. It's like the beep, beep, beep, public service announcement of games. As that I suppose it succeeds. I've already wasted too much time on this.

Yah, the lunatic 4channers who have nothing better to do than mash their keyboards, fap, and post pics who's sub/main objective is to get people to jump off a cliff. Why does anyone take them seriously? I feel like people are making them bigger than what they actually are. Just leave them to WoW-crack. Also, if Zoe Quinn wants to be taken seriously in the industry, why take nude pics of herself, and put them on the web? I mean, these are full-blown shoots, not like a shower selfie. It's like she wants to make a portfolio for Christ's sake.

Also, if you're depressed, I'd recommend Action/Adventure.
People take them seriously because they're organized. The right, and alt right by extension are much better at organizing and deploying people to their causes. The "SJW" that foldn and others crow against are not a set group. They don't have much in common, have no common space they all meet or coordinate. Any time someone gets fired in the face of social justice, it is largely a perfectly organic thing due to social media.
02-02-2017 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
People take them seriously because they're organized. The right, and alt right by extension are much better at organizing and deploying people to their causes. The "SJW" that foldn and others crow against are not a set group. They don't have much in common, have no common space they all meet or coordinate. Any time someone gets fired in the face of social justice, it is largely a perfectly organic thing due to social media.
There's an SJW crowd on YouTube, and they self-identify as SJWs. Many have videos of themselves checking their privledge. I've watched some Laci Green vids. But, there's plenty of SJW critics on YouTube as well, who are successful at provoking some humor in outright contradictions, and double-think from the SJW videos. There's a lot of ping pong on YouTube, which you're free to follow at your own expense.

add: Oh damn, I forgot about Ping Pong, and #pizzagate. No triangle!

add: This is a video I watched earlier, like a few weeks ago. I'll call this the eye of the hurricane.
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If you aren't convinced that there's something wrong here with SJWs, how they act overall, then I don't think you're seeing the whole picture.

Last edited by leavesofliberty; 02-02-2017 at 05:48 PM.
02-02-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty
Also, if Zoe Quinn wants to be taken seriously in the industry, why take nude pics of herself, and put them on the web? I mean, these are full-blown shoots, not like a shower selfie. It's like she wants to make a portfolio for Christ's sake.
Who the **** cares?
02-02-2017 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
You know gamer gate was a thing right? All of those people were anti-SJW, and they exhibited every single one of the things you say anti-SJWs don't do.

What a ****ing clownshoes claim on your part.
Welcome back. Kind of.
02-02-2017 , 05:51 PM
Master has essentially followed me here with the sole motive of trolling, because he knows I have him on ignore.

Master is an actual SJW by the way. And a partisan shill.
02-02-2017 , 05:52 PM
I'm not staying. Just wanted to point out Lords dumb****ery for his new audience since he completely infested the pog politics thread with it. Good luck all, add him to the pile.
02-02-2017 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty
There's an SJW crowd on YouTube, and they self-identify as SJWs. Many have videos of themselves checking their privledge. I've watched some Laci Green vids. But, there's plenty of SJW critics on YouTube as well, who are successful at provoking some humor in outright contradictions, and double-think from the SJW videos. There's a lot of ping pong on YouTube, which you're free to follow at your own expense.

add: Oh damn, I forgot about Ping Pong, and #pizzagate. No triangle!

add: This is a video I watched earlier, like a few weeks ago. I'll call this the eye of the hurricane.
Spoiler:


If you aren't convinced that there's something wrong here with SJWs, how they act overall, then I don't think you're seeing the whole picture.
I highly disagree that they are an organized, uniformed force that you can pinpoint that there is something "good" or "wrong" with them as a whole. They are a large group of people that come together on issues, but definitely do not share the same concerns or causes in uniform.
02-02-2017 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Who the **** cares?
It matters because makes me wonder if she wants to get hired for her boobs or her artistic talent. You're all too eager to see her as a victim, when she more-or-less is going for a snowflake trophy. She shouldn't be mobbed, but she shouldn't expect to be treated like a professional with 100% unprofessional behaviour. I wouldn't hire her. I wouldn't want anyone to think I hired her for anything other than artistic talents. Ethics over sexual politics, imo. You can't play the sex card one moment, and the victim card the next.
02-02-2017 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Original Position
In every presidential election I can remember, the losing campaign is always blamed by their supporters for running a bad campaign. A week before the election, I thought Hillary had run a pretty good campaign (i.e. fundraising, GOTV, endorsements, messaging, debates, oppo etc). Since then I've seen lots of results-oriented claims that she didn't, but little evidence to change this evaluation.

It is clear to me from reading 2p2 politics over the last few weeks that I had a very different view of the initial probability of Hillary winning versus Trump than most posters here. It's also clear that I think campaigns have much less effect on the final result than most posters here. That probably explains the disagreement as much as anything.
Original Position is absolutely 100% correct with the above assessment. Losing campaigns are always awful, winning ones are always brilliant (in some ways).
02-02-2017 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty
It matters because makes me wonder if she wants to get hired for her boobs or her artistic talent. You're all too eager to see her as a victim, when she more-or-less is going for a snowflake trophy. She shouldn't be mobbed, but she shouldn't expect to be treated like a professional with 100% unprofessional behaviour. I wouldn't hire her. I wouldn't want anyone to think I hired her for anything other than artistic talents. Ethics over sexual politics, imo. You can't play the sex card one moment, and the victim card the next.
Then let individual employers make that judgment rather than shaming her on the internet. People here have said they are big on personal freedoms/choices. Let her make her choices, if someone doesnt want to hire her because of nudes...fine. That's not a reason for death threats etc though.
02-02-2017 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Because it shows that you have lied, over and over and started from an incorrect premise. You have devoted days of your life making youtube videos about this subject, yet were so hilariously wrong about the simplest parts of it.

Again foldn, you seem to not understand outrage culture too well. I really recommend that book. We don't know when outrage will reach a critical mass. Unlike the anti SJW, there is no hub of social justice, no long running campaign to harass specific individuals. What generally happens is someone in the public says something stupid, it gets shared a lot, then they might face consequences. There is no underlying cause for what gets people in trouble. Not all statements nor punishments are near equal. There are too many variables involved. Donald Trump would have been fired from 99% of jobs in America for statements he made on the campaign trail. Instead, he is your President.
You have no idea what you are talking about. You couldn't be more wrong, and you are doubling and tripling down on it.


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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Again, I'm a Canadian who has voted conservative the majority of their young lives. Nice read sir. Our election was a year before yours. Identity and anti immigrant policies were floated and struck down. Maybe we just didn't stay as uninformed.

I was hoping for an honest response to what I gave you rather than a "thats why trump got elected." Why do I ever give you any credit?
Oh, now I understand.
02-02-2017 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
Master has essentially followed me here with the sole motive of trolling, because he knows I have him on ignore.

Master is an actual SJW by the way. And a partisan shill.
We are well aware he is an SJW.
02-02-2017 , 06:04 PM
He has repeatedly accused me of being a white supremacist, despite blatantly not being one, so I will not talk to him.
02-02-2017 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
No, I mocked the example because of the banality of it. That seemed to go over your head.
Someone getting made fun of over a shirt or fired for calling a woman a slut just aren't problems I find worth devoting my time.

Again, a Milo supporter shot somebody outside a speech of his two weeks ago. This is so, so much worse than what any SJW has ever done to Milo or anyone against him. This gets a giant shrug to those supporting him.
Violence begets violence. You really think you could go around punching people in the face, harassing them, throwing things at them, and no one is ever going to fight back?

Lol. Homie got shot. Stop ****ing with people and maybe you won't have to worry about them responding to violence with violence. A gun is used and now all of a sudden things got real? Absurdity.
02-02-2017 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
He has repeatedly accused me of being a white supremacist, despite blatantly not being one, so I will not talk to him.
Don't worry, they do the same to me. I'm not even white. lol

      
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