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08-14-2017 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
to be expected. when you get people radically on the left or right, you're going to have problems. when one decides to show up where the others are, youre going to have bigger problems. when they show up with weapons, duh, obviously people are going to die. people die from getting punched and cracking their head on the pavement. in these protests people are throwing rocks, bricks, and explosives. theyre also stomping on each other. people will continue to die if these groups keep organizing situations to clash. if islamic terror keeps increasing, so will vans mowing down people outside mosques. things escalate. thats the point and value of free speech and dialogue, to solve problems without violence

90%+ of all protesters are ******ed tools. 99.9%+ in the case of far right or antifa
Right, but that's what the human who was murdered, and the 18 other humans who were injured, were doing. Do you think there's a problem with Radical White Terrorism?
08-14-2017 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Man, for some reason you forgot to write "culturally different" and wrote "biologically different" instead. Either you ****ed up or autocorrect has properly anticipated your ****ty racist beliefs.
what did wil say? thats not culture. try to be honest. if its not an issue with honesty, take your time and read things twice. be less confident in your "clever" retorts

oh have you found any posts that accurately described and criticized the google situation yet? no? didnt think so
08-14-2017 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
oh have you found any posts that accurately described and criticized the google situation yet? no? didnt think so
You can keep saying this, but you look like an idiot to anyone who isn't too lazy to read the appropriate thread.
08-14-2017 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
Right, but that's what the human who was murdered, and the 18 other humans who were injured, were doing. Do you think there's a problem with Radical White Terrorism?
any terrorism is a problem. if youre going to keep asking stupid questions im going have ignore them. step it up. also, try articulating a point or something. maybe if you're asking poorly thought out gotcha questions in order satisfy your deepest desire to call someone a POS, you need to focus on why youre just a bitter loser..... but thats probably not the case, right?
08-14-2017 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
You can keep saying this, but you look like an idiot to anyone who isn't too lazy to read the appropriate thread.
still nothing?

no i would look like an idiot if you presented me a post that i had read. or bunch of posts that demonstrated it was happening. so far you haven't provided even one. my guess is you will say or do anything expect produce evidence
08-14-2017 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
how would you implement this? what would be the expected consequences of implementing your plan? is this the point where you tuck, duck and run and then deny that you vanish when things get a bit more complicated?
One of the most effective ways is simply to force large companies to publish data on the diversity of their employees. It then works like the gender pay gap with companies finding solutions for themselves. I'm not opposed to penalties for companies that do badly (or benefits for those who do well) if the data shows sufficient differences between companies.

We should be more direct in the public sector - particularly in the higher level jobs and positions of authority. 'Best person for the job' in practice nearly always means a shortlist from which a person is picked on feel. I'd like to see diversity being the deciding factor. I'd expect this solution to be employed by the private sector as well although who knows.

I'm sure there's more that can be done. The expected consequences are that the playing field will become more level a bit faster. As it does the measures are self-limiting.
08-14-2017 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
One of the most effective ways is simply to force large companies to publish data on the diversity of their employees. It then works like the gender pay gap with companies finding solutions for themselves. I'm not opposed to penalties for companies that do badly (or benefits for those who do well) if the data shows sufficient differences between companies.

We should be more direct in the public sector - particularly in the higher level jobs and positions of authority. 'Best person for the job' in practice nearly always means a shortlist from which a person is picked on feel. I'd like to see diversity being the deciding factor. I'd expect this solution to be employed by the private sector as well although who knows.

I'm sure there's more that can be done. The expected consequences are that the playing field will become more level a bit faster. As it does the measures are self-limiting.
could you hop off the unicorn for a split second and organize your thoughts?

maybe step 1 would be for you to define who gets to benefit from your racial discrimination program?
08-14-2017 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
what did wil say? thats not culture. try to be honest. if its not an issue with honesty, take your time and read things twice. be less confident in your "clever" retorts
Again, you think you are smart, but you aren't. Not at all. You responded to a post that responded to this post by manbearpuig:

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Wil is correct. Asian and Jewish parents prioritize education...
That's not a biological argument.

(And it's not even something I would disagree with. Sure it seems to be generally true. Does that mean Asian kids who make a 34 on the ACT deserve a spot over a kid who made a 30 whose parents did NOT prioritize education?Maybe. Maybe not.)
08-14-2017 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
still nothing?
It's is the free speech thread. Maybe you'd take a look if you didn't have a weak chin or too many female hormones or whatever nonsense you believe
08-14-2017 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
could you hop off the unicorn for a split second and organize your thoughts?

maybe step 1 would be for you to define who gets to benefit from your racial discrimination program?
Those racial groups who are harmed by the unlevel playing field will suffer less harm as it becomes more level.
08-14-2017 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
any terrorism is a problem. if youre going to keep asking stupid questions im going have ignore them. step it up. also, try articulating a point or something. maybe if you're asking poorly thought out gotcha questions in order satisfy your deepest desire to call someone a POS, you need to focus on why youre just a bitter loser..... but thats probably not the case, right?
Nah, just the one, to hear your thoughts on Radical White Terrorism, and quite frankly I'm amazed you were able to kinda sorta remain topical.

Also, you can't really deride a gotcha question if it gets you.
08-14-2017 , 03:09 PM
Wait, one more question: What should we do about this problem of Radical White Terrorism?
08-14-2017 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
I don't often hand out compliments to SJW's here but I have to say, Clovis makes you guys look like absolute geniuses. You deserve credit for stepping out of the safe space echo chamber to the point where your feeble arguments look brilliant in comparison


whats interesting is places like harvard racially discriminate as if wil is right. or they are just racist with the intent on harming asians. or, you know, asians are biologically different. take your pick sweetheart
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Again, you think you are smart, but you aren't. Not at all. You responded to a post that responded to this post by manbearpuig:



That's not a biological argument.

(And it's not even something I would disagree with. Sure it seems to be generally true. Does that mean Asian kids who make a 34 on the ACT deserve a spot over a kid who made a 30 whose parents did NOT prioritize education?Maybe. Maybe not.)
no **** sherlock. i presented 3 possible reasons and suggested harvard discriminates as if wil is right. wil made a point about culture. i didn't make any point except pointed out theres limited reasonable options. the problem with dealing with people like you is youre incapable of being embarrassed. you have no interest in honesty and completely obsessed with finding answers that don't exist that it takes multiple back and forth exchanges to keep you on track with what has just been written

when others make claims you demand cite. when asked to show where you made a post you claimed to make, you repeatedly say go find it. i read the thread, i didn't see anything of the sort. now its my obligation to find a post that doesn't exist? lol ok. you would have gladly quoted the post if it existed. it doesnt
08-14-2017 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
no **** sherlock. i presented 3 possible reasons and suggested harvard discriminates as if wil is right. wil made a point about culture. i didn't make any point except pointed out theres limited reasonable options. the problem with dealing with people like you is youre incapable of being embarrassed. you have no interest in honesty and completely obsessed with finding answers that don't exist that it takes multiple back and forth exchanges to keep you on track with what has just been written

when others make claims you demand cite. when asked to show where you made a post you claimed to make, you repeatedly say go find it. i read the thread, i didn't see anything of the sort. now its my obligation to find a post that doesn't exist? lol ok. you would have gladly quoted the post if it existed. it doesnt
Yeah but you can't actually read.

I thought we went over this.
08-14-2017 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Those racial groups who are harmed by the unlevel playing field will suffer less harm as it becomes more level.
is this your level of thinking or you lacing up the boots before running away? (as usual)

who are the racial groups? how do you determine them? i mean these are obvious questions you need to answer in order to implement a plan you are in favor of and think would create positive outcomes. you just described nothing. so people can put on their resume a that they are a racial group that has been harmed? what unicorn dust have you been smoking? this is your plan. take off the boots, tie up the unicorn, and offer some sort of explanation as to how you are going to implement your plan. its your plan, why is it so hard to explain it? why is it like pulling teeth to get the most simple and obvious answers to basic questions?
08-14-2017 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
Wait, one more question: What should we do about this problem of Radical White Terrorism?
amazing stuff champ. im pretty sure the legal system has acts of violence covered
08-14-2017 , 03:25 PM
juan valdez,


What are your thoughts on asking me for a personal anecdote and then getting triggered for providing you with said anecdote, subsequently blaming me for providing you with said anecdote when you said providing a personal anecdote was no way to answer a question that was asking to provide you with a personal anecdote?
08-14-2017 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
amazing stuff champ. im pretty sure the legal system has acts of violence covered


So we should let white supremacists try to terrorize and impress upon our communities while we wait for the police to come? What happens when the police stay out of it?
08-14-2017 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
juan valdez,


What are your thoughts on asking me for a personal anecdote and then getting triggered for providing you with said anecdote, subsequently blaming me for providing you with said anecdote when you said providing a personal anecdote was no way to answer a question that was asking to provide you with a personal anecdote?
i think you're lonely
08-14-2017 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
is this your level of thinking or you lacing up the boots before running away? (as usual)

who are the racial groups? how do you determine them? i mean these are obvious questions you need to answer in order to implement a plan you are in favor of and think would create positive outcomes. you just described nothing. so people can put on their resume a that they are a racial group that has been harmed? what unicorn dust have you been smoking? this is your plan. take off the boots, tie up the unicorn, and offer some sort of explanation as to how you are going to implement your plan. its your plan, why is it so hard to explain it? why is it like pulling teeth to get the most simple and obvious answers to basic questions?
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Originally Posted by 6ix
Wait, one more question: What should we do about this problem of Radical White Terrorism?
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
amazing stuff champ. im pretty sure the legal system has acts of violence covered

Back to back posts.

I almost feel bad you deplorables and the disservice done by whomever told you that you were the goodest smartest little boys.
08-14-2017 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
i think you're lonely
Oh hey look, 2 juan posts that are appropriate:

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Originally Posted by juan valdez
is this your level of thinking or you lacing up the boots before running away? (as usual)

who are the racial groups? how do you determine them? i mean these are obvious questions you need to answer in order to implement a plan you are in favor of and think would create positive outcomes. you just described nothing. so people can put on their resume a that they are a racial group that has been harmed? what unicorn dust have you been smoking? this is your plan. take off the boots, tie up the unicorn, and offer some sort of explanation as to how you are going to implement your plan. its your plan, why is it so hard to explain it? why is it like pulling teeth to get the most simple and obvious answers to basic questions?
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
no **** sherlock. i presented 3 possible reasons and suggested harvard discriminates as if wil is right. wil made a point about culture. i didn't make any point except pointed out theres limited reasonable options. the problem with dealing with people like you is youre incapable of being embarrassed. you have no interest in honesty and completely obsessed with finding answers that don't exist that it takes multiple back and forth exchanges to keep you on track with what has just been written

when others make claims you demand cite. when asked to show where you made a post you claimed to make, you repeatedly say go find it. i read the thread, i didn't see anything of the sort. now its my obligation to find a post that doesn't exist? lol ok. you would have gladly quoted the post if it existed. it doesnt
08-14-2017 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
So we should let white supremacists try to terrorize and impress upon our communities while we wait for the police to come? What happens when the police stay out of it?
both sides of the disaster were breaking the law. it wasn't white supremacists crushing peaceful snowflakes. it was two radical groups who have a history of violent protest clashing. police have sat back as antifa assualted people and destroyed property. things escalated. same with this protest. we have seen what happens when police sit back and wait for mobs of loons to clash. people die

we don't interact much so i just wanted to make it clear that i think quite low of the SJW's here and their ability to formulate an intelligent thought or argument. i think you're below average in a sad group. dont be surprised if i ignore more posts like this directed at me
08-14-2017 , 03:35 PM
It all just flies right over you head, huh?

Ok, last question, scout's honor, cross my heart and hope to die:

Is it a happy life?

I mean, you dudes constantly seem angry but I suspect, and am slightly jealous of the notion, that being ball-tinglingly stupid while totally lacking self-awareness probably has some pretty sweet upsides.
08-14-2017 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
is this your level of thinking or you lacing up the boots before running away? (as usual)

who are the racial groups? how do you determine them? i mean these are obvious questions you need to answer in order to implement a plan you are in favor of and think would create positive outcomes. you just described nothing. so people can put on their resume a that they are a racial group that has been harmed? what unicorn dust have you been smoking? this is your plan. take off the boots, tie up the unicorn, and offer some sort of explanation as to how you are going to implement your plan. its your plan, why is it so hard to explain it? why is it like pulling teeth to get the most simple and obvious answers to basic questions?
?

I don't have your fear that people are going to systemically lie about their ethnicity. I explained some appraoches, not sure which bit you don't understand. If, say, African Americans are underrepresented in senior roles in the public sector then from the shortlist of those suitable for the job, there would be positive discrimination in their favour. Ethnicity data would be published to put pressure on private companies (and the public sector when it comes down to it). I'm not dogmatic about the methods, there may be other or better approaches.

You may not agree it's a good idea but I'm struggling to see which part of it is complicated to understand.
08-14-2017 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
both sides of the disaster were breaking the law. it wasn't white supremacists crushing peaceful snowflakes. it was two radical groups who have a history of violent protest clashing. police have sat back as antifa assualted people and destroyed property. things escalated. same with this protest. we have seen what happens when police sit back and wait for mobs of loons to clash. people die



we don't interact much so i just wanted to make it clear that i think quite low of the SJW's here and their ability to formulate an intelligent thought or argument. i think you're below average in a sad group. dont be surprised if i ignore more posts like this directed at me


So you don't even know what went down?

Plus you use that stereotype sjw. Which means you aren't even smart enough to exceed stereotyping. Tssk tssk.

      
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