FACT CHECK: Is Left-Wing Violence Rising?

"In the past 10 years when you look at murders committed by domestic extremists in the United States of all types, right-wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders," Pitcavage says.


ADL Report Exposes Right-Wing Terrorism Threat in the U.S.



Plenty of other sources on this. Any cites for what you are talking about?

The ADL report is right here. No need to link to the editorializing:
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/fi...smInUS2016.pdf

Go to the bottom of page 2. Also note, there are less than 70 deaths per year for all Extremism (including radical Islam).

What type of totalitarianism are you willing to accept to bring this number down? Ban mosques? Burn books? What? (We could go down the list of things that kill more than 70 people a year if you like).

As a reminder Dory, all violent ideologies are **** and murder is bad. In case that's unclear to you.

What is your point?

10% *******s over there and 5% *******s over here?

All i said is the right kills more and is more violent. That is true.



As far as how to confront it. Well you have a lot of strawmen there for me so ill let you talk with yourself to knock them down.

That's a funny coincidence, I need to buy two couches soon. Do you think I should get the U-shaped sectional, or do you prefer the L-shaped?

I was thinking micro-fiber instead of leather. Your thoughts?

Im mostly just nitting and saying Nazis should stay home as to not encourage the roaming heards of violent commies.
L and micro is the way to go.

These situations are no where close to equal. Innocent Japanese citizens were rounded up and put into camps, simply due to skin color. If that happened to blacks or Mexicans or Muslims in this country I would consider taking up arms against the United States government.


Blacks are disproportionately affected because there is more crime in the black communities. That isn't an opinion, it's a fact. Half the murders are committed in the black community in this country yet they make up 12% of the population. That is not an opinion, that is a fact. Black police officers are more likely to shoot and kill a black suspect than a White officer. That is not an opinion, that is a fact.

We can argue WHY these things happen, but I find no compelling evidence to believe that black people are targeted specifically and systemically. I'm sorry you disagree with me here, I really do.

There are people who would say this very thing about Muslims or Jews or Cambodians or Republicans. I don't like Nazis. I don't like racism. But as much as someone else may have the same feelings towards, say, pornography, I tolerate their right to exist. I do not believe people should be targeted specifically for their vile beliefs. There are people who despise "Muslim hate preachers" and believe they should be rounded up and deported. As much as I WANT to agree with them, I don't.

People have a right to believe in nonsense. Until they actually break a law, we must tolerate their right to believe in it.

I don't minimize a damn thing. You simply maximize your feelings against something depending on what you think of their beliefs.

A simple yes or no will do. BLM is almost entirely nonviolent. I'm not exploring your threshold for violent revolution, just trying to help you understand that saying "Black Lives Matter" is not racist.

Though as an aside, you seem to be suggesting that Americans should have considered taking up arms against the US gov in 1942. Pretty radical. How about 1850 because of slavery? 1950 because of Jim Crow?

I agree whole-heartedly. Area rugs and L-shaped sectionals.

See that? We can agree on things.

BLM is absolutely racist. They do things based on skin color, not injustice. I dislike injustice no matter the person's race. BLM absolutely does not.

Now, that doesn't mean I may not support a specific BLM cause, if I believe it's just. But if you are asking me if I just throw in with BLM on every issue, that answer is absolutely not.

Injustice is injustice. The reason slavery ended was because so many White men were willing to kill each over it. I don't know about you, but that seems like a pretty good argument that people REALLY disliked slavery, even the ones who weren't negatively affected by it.

As far as taking up arms in 1942, the world was at war and the US was scared and confused about what was going on. That is a ripe environment for injustice.

It was wrong what happened to the Japanese, but this country is young and made mistakes. I believe it tries it's best to learn from them, and I hold no long-term grudge over them rounding up Asians and putting them in camps.

If they did it again, I'd be pissed enough to get militant. If the US implemented slavery again, I would be willing to lay down my life fighting against it. Does that answer your question?

Let it be known - this is the most deeply satisfying thing I've ever read on 2+2, and exactly why I've used this line of attack over the years. I always knew it got under Fly's skin, because he's a broke ass loser who can't believe someone who disagrees with them so much can actually be a thriving, successful person. Fly thinks everyone who disagrees with him is a hillbilly who has a broken down truck in their front lawn, which is essentially a racist stereotype.

LOL, Fly. You're the biggest snowflake of them all! Your path in life led you to disappointment and bitterness, while mine led to success and happiness. You can't believe the outcome, can you? You should have won, right? Well guess what? You didn't.

LPT : you're doing it wrong, ****face.

Amazing. This ****ing idiot thinks Nazis are incapable of doing anything bad.

The dumb mother****er is trying to say radical islamicism and radical black nationalism are far-left.

That's what happening here.

Also, hate crimes should be looked at but the whole thing is too ****ing stupid to even bother with.

sorry i don't virtue signal non-stop.

and sorry that antifa are worse than nazis. maybe if the group called anti-fascist didn't walk around being fascist all day i'd have more respect for them.

I'm an antifa group. You have expressed fascist desires about women. Your respect on the matter is contradictory and meaningless due to your own expressed authoritarian urges.

Spank give it a rest, Jesus.

Come make me, sucker.

I found another one guize

The second sentence is virtue signaling lol, but the virtue it's signaling is "support for fascism".

Guys, there were peaceful protesters on both sides. Chanting Nazi slogans and quoting Hitler is super peaceful

I can't, I'm sitting behind a computer, you weirdo.

antifa had nothing to do with this. the extremist supremacists came armed to the teeth and looking for a fight. they proceeded to attack peaceful protesters and local citizens.

there is tons of proof out there. heres more:

https://www.propublica.org/article/p...harlottesville

that you continue to perpetuate the myth that anti-supremacist protesters somehow brought on the violence or deserved it is more proof of your similarity in ideals with the supremacists.

Hey, guys, sure killing six million Jews was bad, but antifa hits people with BIKE LOCKS!!!!!!!!

Carrying Hammer and Sickles and quoting Stalin is super peaceful. Get ****ing bent.