are there ****heads on both sides? of course

should "the Left" be universally held out as ****headery? no more than "the Right"

Which is unusual - but you can clearly see the A circle on the banner they're carrying and the Antifa flag right before the punch is delivered.

Why do you think Antifa punched that journalist? And what is your position on this political violence?

It appears the larceny is still in his heart however. The city had two options:

1) Give the Antifa people permits and space to protest separated from the other group.

2) Give the Antifa people permits to protest on a different day (probably the smarter option).

They chose neither.

If someone bearing Antifa symbols punched the journalist, that person punched the journalist because that person is an *******.

Violence, in a civil society, should be used only defensively and never preemptively.

I don't think you know what "larceny" means... or if you do, I don't understand how it applies here.


Was antifa issued a permit for the same time and space?

There's some history you're missing in this thread.

Rational people realize that the Nazis should have just been ignored. And then, when there was no one to pick a fight with, they'd all go home (sexually frustrated, but at least they'll go home).

The pussy hats were ignored, the inauguration riots were ignored, and plenty of other Left wing protests were simply ignored.

Shutting down speech is just a bad idea. Because eventually, they'll shut down yours.

As I said earlier - Communists are going to rile up Nazis and then patriotic Americans are going to have to defeat them both, AGAIN. Because these groups are two sides of the same stupid coin.

They were not.

The ACLU had to sue for the Free Speech rights of the Nazis. Their permit was revoked and then reinstated by a Federal Judge on Free Speech grounds.

antifa violence is counterproductive

the "punch a nazi" thing is completely deplorable

Do you recognize that saying a black man "still has larceny in his heart" evokes the trope of black men stealing property?


Because there was no theft in the context in which you used it, you must have had an association of "larceny" (an amorphous bad thing) and blacks.

How did you get that association? Do you want to maintain it?

Apologies. It's more of esoteric quote that comes from:

"For the con to work, one must have larceny in their heart."

What I meant was evil (as in the evils of racism). Not larceny as in theft.. I did not even consider that. I do sincerely apologize and appreciate you for pointing that out to me.

What the police did was NOT give Antifa a permit to protest and then had a 'stand down' order. This just allowed them to "show up" - unlawfully. Once the rioters in engaged it other, the cops used it as a pretense to disperse the mobs as unlawful assembly.

My guess is - this is why people were co-mingling in the streets and garages as they were dispersed, leading to even more violent clashes.

The amount of violent communists in the US is about nil. Maybe you should lecture the right for increasing their numbers and ask the white supremacist to stay home and not confront the communists.

I'm sorry if I rushed to misreading you.

I can't find the expression on google. It means an honest person makes a lousy thief?

smacking people with bike locks and throwing your own piss at them is not violent in your view???

No it is. It just does not compare. Especially when it comes to killing.

Inauguration riots, Berkley, Oregon, Seattle, they're everywhere.

And they are violent.

I don't believe the Nazis would have burned down anything (like the Muslim limo in DC or the fires set at Berkley). And if they even attempted to - bam, arrest them! Win-win! Free speech preserved and Nazis in jail.

Nazis are bad *******s, who's ideology is ****.

Why? Because they didn't finish the job? You do know that hitting someone on the head with a bikelock is attempted murder? Also, care to comment on James Hodgkinson?

It means that if you seek unjust reward or ill gotten gains or look to do evil, then you must have evil in your heart. The evil didn't make you do it, it only drew out of you what was already there.

not exactly a model of civility

Totally agree. That guy was a loon. So was the guy who drove the car into people. Terrorists both. Condemned by all. Not limited to one side.

If you think the far left kills near what the far right does in the US you are not worth taking to on the subject. The what about game is bad for you guys here.

Or its a massive false equivalency.

You have no idea what you're talking about. That's ok Dory, you'll forget we ever had this conversation in...3...2....1...

I'll even help you:
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/fi...smInUS2016.pdf
(Sigh, don't know why I bother).

people exercise their demons trying to exorcise others'

maybe