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08-14-2017 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
The reason you get accused of victim blaming is because you lie and victim blame. Then when you get called out, you lie about what you said. Here is you lying and victim blaming:




Yes, it was peaceful snowflakes that were crushed by white supremacists. Literally, with the white supremacist's car:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...tue/561833001/

To the extent that there were two sides, one was overwhelming peaceful. Only after getting called out for being the scumbag that you are do you go oh, yes, yes, I was only referring to a small portion of the anti-Nazi group being violent.
try to follow along. before this interaction i already agreed that this was an act of terrorism
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
So we should let white supremacists try to terrorize and impress upon our communities while we wait for the police to come? What happens when the police stay out of it?
my response to a point and a question
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
both sides of the disaster were breaking the law. it wasn't white supremacists crushing peaceful snowflakes. it was two radical groups who have a history of violent protest clashing. police have sat back as antifa assualted people and destroyed property. things escalated. same with this protest. we have seen what happens when police sit back and wait for mobs of loons to clash. people die

we don't interact much so i just wanted to make it clear that i think quite low of the SJW's here and their ability to formulate an intelligent thought or argument. i think you're below average in a sad group. dont be surprised if i ignore more posts like this directed at me
wow what a radical statement i just made lol. antifa and white supremacists showed up to the same spot and started brawling. violence erupted as police sat back. thats what happened. are innocent people going to get hurt during a riot? yes, of course. thats kind of part of the answer to the question of what happens when police sit back and watch violence escalate

look at all the strawmem showing up. i failed to denounce the white supremacists? weird because im pretty sure i just finished agreeing it was a white supremacist act of terror. you're really doing wonders to disprove my claim that a dominant theme in the SJW community is bitterness and resentment. youre just dying to fabricate someone to hate. you repeatedly have to fabricate a pov that was clearly disproved just a few posts prior
08-14-2017 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
no **** sherlock. i presented 3 possible reasons and suggested harvard discriminates as if wil is right. wil made a point about culture.
Oh, wil made a point about culture? I have a source that disputes that:

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what did wil say? thats not culture


Maybe take a little less meth between posts so you can keep your thoughts straight.
08-14-2017 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
The people in the crowd that were mowed down were the anti-Nazi group. What percentage of them are you accusing of being violent leftists? Come on let's hear it..... Are you victim blaming or not? You say you are anti-Nazi but when it comes time to put up or shut-up you are neutral like Switzerland.
What that ****ing idiot did with his car is horrific. He plowed into a group of human beings knowing full well he could easily kill someone, which is exactly what wound up happening.

What is the issue you have with my position? I've said this from the very beginning. Jesus Christ, this is exactly the same issue when that idiot pulled out a rifle and shot 5 cops in Dallas. Does he represent all black people? No. Does he represent all Black lives matter? No. Do I consider Black Lives matter a racist organization? YES.

This is the exact same situation except you are changing the skin color of the people involved. Nazis are scum. Racists are scum. I simply am honest enough to dish it out on both sides.
08-14-2017 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
It's true that the rightist are way more violent. Most of the leftists and/or liberals chant things like "Love Trumps Hate" (probably the most common chant at any of these events). Most of the leftists and/or liberals are dedicated to non-violent resistance. The rightist love intimidation, violence, guns, military, order and basically any manifestation or representation of violence or domination.

That said, the level of violence at demonstrations and rallies is not the entire or even best measure of the different groups here. The KKK-Confederacy Nazis, even the ones who demonstrate peacefully, are attempting to work towards a horrific society where the state will impose a tremendous amount of suffering on millions of people. If they do a peaceful sit-in, sing kumbaya, hold hands and plan ways to keep down the black vote, deport Hispanics, ban Muslims, and ignore climate change they are still far far far worse people and more dangerous than any masked brick throwing Antifa activist or anyone busting the windows of the CVS in Ferguson.
settle down stupid. antifa openly support communism. we have 100's of millions of bodies piled up from that cute little philosophy. both sides are radical in ideology. both side have been violent recently. both sides are a genocidal disaster. yes there were innocent people in attendance but the violence escalated between two radical groups
08-14-2017 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
What that ****ing idiot did with his car is horrific. He plowed into a group of human beings knowing full well he could easily kill someone, which is exactly what wound up happening.

What is the issue you have with my position? I've said this from the very beginning. Jesus Christ, this is exactly the same issue when that idiot pulled out a rifle and shot 5 cops in Dallas. Does he represent all black people? No. Does he represent all Black lives matter? No. Do I consider Black Lives matter a racist organization? YES.

This is the exact same situation except you are changing the skin color of the people involved. Nazis are scum. Racists are scum. I simply am honest enough to dish it out on both sides.
The Nazi/white supremacist ideology is either "kill all minorities" or "send them all home."

The BLM ideology is "Punish white cops who kill black people."

Not the same.
08-14-2017 , 04:53 PM
wil,

In 1942 if an American citizen of Japanese descent protesting internment said "Japanese Lives Matter" would that be racist?
08-14-2017 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Oh, wil made a point about culture? I have a source that disputes that:



Maybe take a little less meth between posts so you can keep your thoughts straight.
so wil saying different parenting isn't about culture? me saying wil was talking culture is wrong? you trying to snip out nonsense to justify your stupidity is just another example of why people just end up ignoring you

you have endless energy for pissy and idiotic arguments. what you don't have time for is actual evidence to back up your claim that people actually accurately described the google memo and criticized it
08-14-2017 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
I've already given my thoughts.

But fwiw, I thought it was a huge tragedy that possibly could have been avoided.

(Although I'm not really allowed to say that, so I'll probably get banned.)

Edit: reply to masters's post.
No denouncing of the evil ****s who commited the acts, only "It possibly could have been avoided" (by not having those pesky protesters there)

Congrats! You're a winner on "Are they as awful as the President?"!
08-14-2017 , 04:59 PM
Baby steps!
08-14-2017 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
No denouncing of the evil ****s who commited the acts, only "It possibly could have been avoided" (by not having those pesky protesters there)

Congrats! You're a winner on "Are they as awful as the President?"!
Of course it was an evil act. That's not in dispute.
08-14-2017 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
wil,

In 1942 if an American citizen of Japanese descent protesting internment said "Japanese Lives Matter" would that be racist?
BLM is a bit racist. not like nazi racist, but still racist
08-14-2017 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
so wil saying different parenting isn't about culture? me saying wil was talking culture is wrong? you trying to snip out nonsense to justify your stupidity is just another example of why people just end up ignoring you

you have endless energy for pissy and idiotic arguments. what you don't have time for is actual evidence to back up your claim that people actually accurately described the google memo and criticized it

You said THE EXACT OPPOSITE:

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Originally Posted by juan valdez
what did wil say? thats not culture. try to be honest. if its not an issue with honesty, take your time and read things twice. be less confident in your "clever" retorts

oh have you found any posts that accurately described and criticized the google situation yet? no? didnt think so
What the hell is wrong with you?
08-14-2017 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Okay, let's bet on whether or not I posted a critique of the Google memo using quotations from the memo. Name your price, moron.
and accurately described the contents?

i bet you 5 cents you cant dig up a quote where you accurately describe the contents of the google memo and criticize it

ducking this quote 10 times and keep bringing it up is certainly much easier than just quoting yourself right?
08-14-2017 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
You said THE EXACT OPPOSITE:



What the hell is wrong with you?
so after wil describes culture, i refer to what wil described (culture) and two other possibilities, we agree wil was describing culture, i told you i was describing wil stating culture, you keep repeating a quote where you think i am contradicting myself? i mean i see the quote. i wrote it. this is my point. you will endlessly peck away at ridiculously stupid and obvious nonsense and yet youre too busy to dig up your supposed quote about the google memo
08-14-2017 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
Baby steps!
who didnt denounce (condemn)? who? im serious. youre a mod. strawmanning dishonest bull**** is expected of the mentally challenged SJW's but its definitely not appropriate for a mod to be a snarky and dishonest dickhead slandering posters. im seriously sick of your slandering

who didnt condemn?
08-14-2017 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
so after wil describes culture, we agree will was describing culture, i told you i was describing wil stating culture, you keep repeating a quote where you think i am contradicting myself? i mean i see the quote. i wrote it. this is my point. you will endlessly peck away at ridiculously stupid and obvious nonsense and yet youre too busy to dig up your supposed quote about the google memo
I still don't understand what's going on. Why would you say wil's post was not about culture if you thought it was? And then why would you blame me for the confusion? This is totally bizarre.
08-14-2017 , 05:15 PM
antifa are actually slightly worse than the nazi protesters, in my opinion.

the nazi protesters had a nice aesthetic with the torches. antifa are a band of masked thugs who are generally ugly and who hide behind a bunch of women, jump out to hit people with sticks, and then go back behind the protection of women.
08-14-2017 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
BLM is a bit racist. not like nazi racist, but still racist


How is a hashtag about police reform racist?
08-14-2017 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Of course it was an evil act. That's not in dispute.
Still can't bear to say it. I said the little ****er who commited the act was evil, you said it was an evil act. There is a loud and clear distinction between the two because you don't have the ability to say "Nazi scumbags are all super evils ****s."

Go ahead, try it.
08-14-2017 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by augie_
antifa are actually slightly worse than the nazi protesters, in my opinion.

the nazi protesters had a nice aesthetic with the torches. antifa are a band of masked thugs who are generally ugly and who hide behind a bunch of women, jump out to hit people with sticks, and then go back behind the protection of women.


How can anti-fascism strategy do anything?
08-14-2017 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
What that ****ing idiot did with his car is horrific. He plowed into a group of human beings knowing full well he could easily kill someone, which is exactly what wound up happening.

What is the issue you have with my position? I've said this from the very beginning. Jesus Christ, this is exactly the same issue when that idiot pulled out a rifle and shot 5 cops in Dallas. Does he represent all black people? No. Does he represent all Black lives matter? No. Do I consider Black Lives matter a racist organization? YES.

This is the exact same situation except you are changing the skin color of the people involved. Nazis are scum. Racists are scum. I simply am honest enough to dish it out on both sides.
Except even if you personally think they are racist, you know damn well there are good reasons for good people to support BLM, namely that cops literally get away with murder and the burden disproportionately falls on black people. Yeah, I heard your spiel about how police brutality is for the greater good of blacks, but you know damn well reasonable people can think you are full of ****.

On the other hand, Nazis are pure unadulterated, evil. There is nothing good about them. Some of the worst the world has ever seen. So evil that the United States of America allied with actual in the flesh COMMUNISTS to destroy them.

My problem with you is that you regularly minimize the evil of Nazism by trying to equate it with whatever "leftist" happens to be pissing you off that day.
08-14-2017 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
and accurately described the contents?

i bet you 5 cents you cant dig up a quote where you accurately describe the contents of the google memo and criticize it

ducking this quote 10 times and keep bringing it up is certainly much easier than just quoting yourself right?
So who judges the accuracy? You? Hey, I'll stipulate that my critique of the Google memo will not be deemed accurate by weird rightwingers such as yourself.

Was that it? You made a bunch of posts whining that no one had made a post about the Google memo that you would agree with? That's what you've been whining about this whole time? Demanding links so you could say "But I disagree with this post, and my mere disagreement proves me right"? Do you understand how moronic that is? If so, try not to do it again.
08-14-2017 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
I still don't understand what's going on. Why would you say wil's post was not about culture if you thought it was? And then why would you blame me for the confusion? This is totally bizarre.
i said wils post was about culture. thats obvious. the fact you think i said otherwise is also obvious. i pointed out multiple times thats not the case and yet you cant move on
08-14-2017 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
So who judges the accuracy? You? Hey, I'll stipulate that my critique of the Google memo will not be deemed accurate by weird rightwingers such as yourself.

Was that it? You made a bunch of posts whining that no one had made a post about the Google memo that you would agree with? That's what you've been whining about this whole time? Demanding links so you could say "But I disagree with this post, and my mere disagreement proves me right"? Do you understand how moronic that is? If so, try not to do it again.
yes. obviously

all i saw were broad generalizations. nobody actually quoted contents of the memo, describe the accurately, and then criticized them. the fact you could go on and on endlessly bickering about this instead of just posting a quote, says all that needs to be said. you can't and wont post a quote of yourself that you claim exists for a reason. you'd rather lie and argue endlessly

post it or don't. im done entertaining your insatiable appetite for pointless bickering
08-14-2017 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
i said wils post was about culture. thats obvious. the fact you think i said otherwise is also obvious. i pointed out multiple times thats not the case and yet you cant move on
I know you said otherwise. It's right there:

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what did wil say? thats not culture.
WTF is going on?

      
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