Ok, ok, I just realized that I should probably get an Amazon Echo but the questions are pouring out now.

The bolded part isn't true. But that's not the question. The question is, are you at all concerned about posting blatantly untrue things?

Follow up: What does it feel like?

you haven't even attempted to define who has been harmed and who should be benefiting from your plan to racially discriminate. how on earth could you implement or be in favor of a plan to racially discriminate when you fail to define who will benefit and who will not benefit? again, its like pulling teeth. i told you that when your silly ideas get confronted that you run away instead of facing the stupidity. here we are and its taking me repeated follow up questions and still failing to get you to even attempt to define who will benefit from racial discrimination and why. saying races that have been harmed is so vague and useless, its astonishing that you could actually believe thats a reasonable answer. how on earth could you believe you could implement a plan this way or that someone else could understand how this works?

This came up in another thread too. It really sounds like you have no idea what actually happened in Charlottesville over the weekend. Even President Trump has denounced the incident and the white supremacists who caused it.

“Racism is evil,” said Mr. Trump, delivering a statement from the White House at a hastily arranged appearance meant to halt the growing political threat posed by the situation. “And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the K.K.K., neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

Posts that try to find an equivalence between neo-Nazis, the KKK, and other white supremacist groups and the counter-protesters in Charlottesville will not be allowed.

There is plenty to discuss regarding this incident, but victim blaming and drawing false equivalences will lead to timeouts.

you really are the worst

there was a mob of white supremacists. a racist committed an act of terror and plowed his car in to a group of people

the fact that antifa showed up and were once again behaving aggressively and violent doesn't justify the white nationalist behavior, beliefs, or actions. its certainly not "victim blaming". threatening time outs based on your idiotic conclusions is pathetic. remember the last time you completely strawmanned me and slandered my post? remember when you refused to apologize and silently deleted it? you really do need to find a new hobby

feel free to disagree with me or correct a mistake. stop strawmanning and fabricating ridiculous nonsense

This is easy. The residents and people of Charlottesville are not an antifa group.

they were brawling with antifa. both were violent and aggressive. this isnt an sort of equivelancy. this is the answer to the question about what happens when the police stay out of it. just like when antifa was left alone. when you get mobs of voilent loons, things escalate
correct. antifa was present and violent though. as usual

why do true statements constantly need to have multiple follow ups regarding silly assumptions. i need to explain that antifa and residents of charlottesville are different groups? after blatantly calling it an act of terror i get accused of victim blaming? its just pathetic

This is exactly backwards thinking. Everyone gets hurt in this situation except for the African American persons bank account. If you put a person who shouldn't be in a position in that position the company and the person are at risk. I'd like to think I'm pretty good at my job. Do you? Now, do you think you should be thrust into a higher role if it's unwarranted? Do you think you'd thrive in an environment if you weren't prepared for it?

Let's use another example. I'd like to think I'm pretty smart, but I can't make it to a top 10 school. I could do fine in a tier 3 college, or maybe even a tier 2 college, but if you put me in Harvard or Princeton I'm dead.

Do you think it's advantageous for me to be unfairly placed into Harvard? Do you think I'd thrive there? There are many perfectly fine colleges I'd do well at, and some I might even exceed at, developing my skill set and knowledge. I'd be a lost soul at a top university. I say that being one of the most egotistical bastards here.

Your line of thinking is backwards. You aren't looking at the situations for what they are, you are looking at it from a perspective of feelings. Your line of thought is "Well, a black person was helped, so it can't be that bad". It's absurd.

On top of that, you have situations where when your sole purpose is to increase "diversity" you wind up getting a minority from the same socio-economic group as the rich white kid. You're getting a minority kid who's dad is a doctor who grew up in the same neighborhood as the white kid who's dad is a doctor.

You really need to rethink these things. You want to put everyone in these categories and change things so you feel better about outcomes. That's an awful, unfair, and frankly immoral way of thinking.

The reason you get accused of victim blaming is because you lie and victim blame. Then when you get called out, you lie about what you said. Here is you lying and victim blaming:


Yes, it was peaceful snowflakes that were crushed by white supremacists. Literally, with the white supremacist's car:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...tue/561833001/

To the extent that there were two sides, one was overwhelming peaceful. Only after getting called out for being the scumbag that you are do you go oh, yes, yes, I was only referring to a small portion of the anti-Nazi group being violent.

You don't know antifa is an anti-fascism strategy?

Hallelujah.

And much like our president, not a single denouncement of the Nazi murderers. You guys don't hide it very well

I think you should watch the videos on YouTube and re-assess your statement. That is absolutely not true at all.

Okay, let's bet on whether or not I posted a critique of the Google memo using quotations from the memo. Name your price, moron.

Both sides people, duh! There were totally equal levels of violence coming from the Nazis and Nazi protesters. I'm surprised you all missed the protestor that ran over Nazis with a car.

Why would anyone believe you about what's true?

WOW. Leftists going full ****** now. Who would have thought.

Hey, you stupid ****s, its cool that you defend the First Amendment so much that you agree that even the Nazis have the right to speak. I agree with you. But you guys are forgetting that Nazis are still evil scumbags that must be opposed at every turn. Like the idea is you let the Nazi speak then obliterate them with your own arguments. You don't say Nazis are terrible but, hey, what about.....

Its like in these "free speech" college debates, yes, if a student wants to invite a hatemonger to speak at a public university then legally they must be accommodated, but why aren't you ****ers outraged that college Republicans keep inviting hatemongers to speak in the first place?

Let's see how you do.

BS, what are your thoughts on what happened in Charlottesville this weekend?

Actually, let's make this even better. Loser of the bet is permabanned.

I've already given my thoughts.

But fwiw, I thought it was a huge tragedy that possibly could have been avoided.

(Although I'm not really allowed to say that, so I'll probably get banned.)

Edit: reply to masters's post.

Because I'm constantly on the correct side of almost everything. Someone who thinks Tom Brady isn't that good as a quarterback at some point has to admit his opinion is simply wrong due the evidence.

You guys can spout your idiot opinions all you want. That's fine. But when the results keep showing you're wrong over and over and over again, at some point you'd think you'd be more reflective and realize something is wrong with your thought process. Unfortunately, you idiots just double down.

You are like degenerate blackjack players who keeps splitting tens and then disregard the results. It's complete idiocy.

Most your posting is bragging and acting like a bigot. No established credibility.

The people in the crowd that were mowed down were the anti-Nazi group. What percentage of them are you accusing of being violent leftists? Come on let's hear it..... Are you victim blaming or not? You say you are anti-Nazi but when it comes time to put up or shut-up you are neutral like Switzerland.

It's true that the rightist are way more violent. Most of the leftists and/or liberals chant things like "Love Trumps Hate" (probably the most common chant at any of these events). Most of the leftists and/or liberals are dedicated to non-violent resistance. The rightist love intimidation, violence, guns, military, order and basically any manifestation or representation of violence or domination.

That said, the level of violence at demonstrations and rallies is not the entire or even best measure of the different groups here. The KKK-Confederacy Nazis, even the ones who demonstrate peacefully, are attempting to work towards a horrific society where the state will impose a tremendous amount of suffering on millions of people. If they do a peaceful sit-in, sing kumbaya, hold hands and plan ways to keep down the black vote, deport Hispanics, ban Muslims, and ignore climate change they are still far far far worse people and more dangerous than any masked brick throwing Antifa activist or anyone busting the windows of the CVS in Ferguson.

Who gets to determine who is a hatemonger?

For example, is Farrakhan a hatemonger? Is Linda Sarsour a hatemonger? Is Richard Spencer a hatemonger? Is Anjem Choudary a hatemonger? Is Ann Coulter a hatemonger? Is Bill Maher a hatemonger?

I think many people in this thread would have issue with at least one of the people in that list. Who gets to determine who speaks?

If you don't like the person speaking, and I can think of multiple people in that list I don't want to listen to, I'd simply not go, or peacefully protest outside. What I wouldn't do is try to shut that person down from their RIGHT to speak.