You're a thought lord now too? Lol.

Not that except in the mind of racists like you.

Affirmative action was defended by the argument that it's a temporary measure to right the wrongs of the past and help certain groups catch up.

It is, by definition, not fair. Even by the people who make the argument.

Jesus. Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

The bolded is exactly why you are a white supremacist.

You haven't heard or misunderstand some of the people who make an argument. It doesn't look fair to white supremacists and their apologists.

And this is why you don't let dogs on the internet. Won't someone think of the puppies?

No comment. Unsurprisingly.

I don't give a flying **** for White people in particular. I care about fairness, and I surely don't want my Asian ass caught up in your animosity. Asians have been paying for what Whites have done to Blacks for years now. Why the **** would I support that?

You feel bad for blacks? YOU pay for it. Don't ask me to.

Clovis making a fool of himself again.

A separatist and a bigot. Dang.

Selfishness, check. You are going for the awful human trifecta. The longer we talk the closer to bingo.

Lol, Asians are openly discriminated against in the top colleges. It's not even a secret. Why are we paying for your sins? Let your children give up their privileged seats. Not me.

The government you are a part of agreed to pay for its sins.

Let white liberals pay. Do the admissions, let it fall how it may. Then take directly from the white kids and give their seats to the black kids who were next in line to get in. Simple.

Why should my kid have to score higher than yours to get into college? YOU PAY. Let YOUR children pay the price. Why should mine?

Everyone knows your an *******. You can stop trying to convince us. We are convinced.

Clovis....you can teach a dog to mash on a keyboard, that doesn't mean you can make its arguments coherent.

Hahahaahhaahhaahahahahahha. Uncomfortable aren't you? No answers?

When it comes time to pony up all of a sudden it's not such a great idea. Right? Let the white kids pay. That's what you support right?

The silence from Clovis is hilarious. White liberals crack me up. They want everyone to pay until it's their turn. Then they just make up bull****.

Don't worry about me Clovis, I'm going to tell my kids to check off American Indian, like Elizabeth Warren.

No sound on the internet. Wow are you insecure!!!

I hear something.

You act like an angry separatist and bigot. Why would you be able to expect any audience?

Oh, I have audience. And I'm sure everyone who read that exchange is trying to think of a good answer.

There is no good answer. There is no bull**** liberal talking point to use. You can't explain to me why my child has to score higher on the SAT than your child to get in college. There IS no answer. That's why it's bull****!

That seems a strange way to consider it.

'Racism is bad' isn't some axiom. It's a conclusion reached because we consider it bad that groups of people being subordinate or worse off than others because of their skin colour is a bad thing. That's why when we talk of the problems of racism we don't usually apply it in the 'reverse' case (positive discrimination) as then it's addressing the thing we consider bad rather than exacerbating it.

There's a second consideration which is that it would be best if everyone is treated as an individual - that's the ideal scenario but while the playing field isn't level then we have a moral dilemma and some of us think that a degree of positive discrimination best meets the moral objectives of achieving a just world.