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Originally Posted by augie_
Again, yes, and I don't find the doctors any more culpable than the therapists. It's a service, and surgeons and doctors who do transitions shouldn't be counseling their patient. They're getting paid to chop off the dick not life coaching.
We're now into conspiracy territory where for some reason clinicians are happy to suspend all their ethics to make medical decisions against the consensus on a wide scale (with all the potential legal ramifications this can carry). Which might make some sense for the odd doctor, and especially in privatised systems, but we have to explain why this is also the treatment offered in nationalised healthcare systems like the UK's NHS and across other European countries.
So, like I said to Jiggy, I'm not really interested in talking mass cross-country medical conspiracy theories to exploit trans folk. We're into fantasy land and I'm not playing.
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Ugh, annoying that we have to do this one. I mean come on.
No, you may not kill and eat someone because they have the freedom to be not killed and eaten. This is where the constitutional government comes in. We can have government sponsored cages where we lock away those who want to kill and eat hearts.
No, NAMBLA may not molest children. Because the children have the freedom to not be molested. I actually support the right of self identified pedophiles to assemble and have some kind of therapy or support group, though. It would be better if we could just ship them off to an island but that would be a violation of their freedom.
I consider this a form of lying to pretend like you think the term "freedom" encompasses killing and molesting. don't be so dishonest.
Right, so some freedoms have to be curtailed to protect other freedoms because individuals will often have competing goals. So don't just say you're in favour of all freedom when that's patently not the case. It's just silly talk.