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02-12-2017 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
Anyone who thinks I've ever been "pwned" over there or over here literally cannot read.

I need to stop pressing "view post".
no it seems that you cant read. you have simply made up things in both threads.

you straight up made up that ppl "forced" this guy to do anything. no one did. the university moved the event on their own volition. the guy apologized on his own volition due to criticism.

you straight up made up this

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Originally Posted by LordJvK
Actually if you look more closely at the story, he provided concrete numbers for the US also and showed that the situation was at least analogous there.

Also, if the country of origin is the thing that matters (i.e. As regards travel ban) then why is the European data irrelevant exactly? People can fly from country A to country B or country C. I don't see why you are hand waving the European numbers.

In any case, it's a shame that he was made to apologise for this by illiberal mobs.
as this was never said in either of the links you provided.

ya see, me, im not that smart. I just stick to facts and simple logic. thats easy. you, however, to support your deluded worldview, must constantly lie and distort and omit and strawman. thats hard work Im sure. I would not be able to do it, thats for sure.
02-12-2017 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
so you guys dont think those ppl should be able to organize a peaceful protest of that guys lecture?

realize, in no place in that article did they demand that he not speak. in fact, they pretty much did the opposite, and expressed disappointment that they would not be able to protest.
This is not indicative of what's actually been happening. Do I really have to link videos of how they disrup his speeches? Really?
02-12-2017 , 10:51 PM
Whose speeches, do you know who we are talking about Wil?
02-12-2017 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
This is not indicative of what's actually been happening. Do I really have to link videos of how they disrup his speeches? Really?
dude, we were talking about the link that lord provided about some professor who's speech was cancelled. the protest didnt even happen.

and regardless, there are thousands of protests that are peaceful not disruptive. the vast majority are. you just dont hear about them.
02-12-2017 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Whose speeches, do you know who we are talking about Wil?
wil is really hard to talk to. he needs to be constantly spoon-fed precise context are he cant keep track of whats going on. I cant tell if its intentional or he has some sort of disability.
02-13-2017 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
wil is really hard to talk to. he needs to be constantly spoon-fed precise context are he cant keep track of whats going on. I cant tell if its intentional or he has some sort of disability.
Why do you think he got exiled?
02-13-2017 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
just a truly pathetic and cowardly display by lord. once again.
For this and several other posts. Final warning in this thread Victor. Any questions or complaints about this - take them to a moderation thread.


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Originally Posted by kerowo
I had time to look at it and commented on it in the other thread. We don't need the same links being posted in multiple threads with the same comments on them. I'm sure if Chez wasn't passed out drunk somewhere he would say the same thing.
Just in case it wasn't clear last time. You cannot bring your 'modding' to content threads and you cannot bring forum noise to content threads. This applies to all content threads and is your final warning. There is no leeway on either of these.


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Originally Posted by wil318466
You really are out of control dude. Someone needs to do something about you. Chez has done more in a week than you did your entire time modding this place. Show some sort of respect or just leave, as your behavior is just totally unacceptable.
Wil, if you need to respond to non-content posts then can you take it to one of the !!! threads please

Last edited by chezlaw; 02-13-2017 at 02:13 AM.
02-13-2017 , 02:13 AM
Chez, that wasn't even an insult. It's absurd to warn Victor for that. You wouldn't get a warning for that in OOT, SE or literally any other forum on 2p2. This looks like nothing more than a defense of Wil, who you didn't warn for calling others "******s" lately. Chezland, in a nutshell. Stormfront, but most of the posters can beat .05/.10.
02-13-2017 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Chez, that wasn't even an insult. It's absurd to warn Victor for that. You wouldn't get a warning for that in OOT, SE or literally any other forum on 2p2. This looks like nothing more than a defense of Wil, who you didn't warn for calling others "******s" lately. Chezland, in a nutshell. Stormfront, but most of the posters can beat .05/.10.
There were several offending posts but if you want to discuss, or gripe about, moderation decisions or the forum then take it to the moderation thread - keep it out of content threads.
02-13-2017 , 03:19 AM
sjws at the wall street journal are purging writers with different opinions https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ournal/516318/

murdoch papers need to be a safe space where youre shielded from harmful opinions
02-13-2017 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
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What if a speaker says something ridiculous and the crowd spontaneously boos him off the stage? That seems fine to me and it would be absurd to arrest the entire crowd. Do you really want to criminalize booing?
This is 1st on the list of quick examples to highlight this facet.
02-13-2017 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
On the contrary. My position is to argue more, not less. I've been criticising those who advocate not arguing, but instead advocate shouting down and trying to prevent argument.
Mother****er just stop.

You refuse to address this point:

Where in the **** was the microphone and podium and stage space for the arguer to make their argument against Milo?

There's a huge blind spot you guys have, and it's that if Milo or any of the other deplorable pseudointellectuals were having actual debates in front of crowds, or actual townhall style forums, the majority of the protestors would be instead lining up around the block to either see the Milos get clowned or clown them themselves. But they don't, and 1 thing I'll give Milo specifically is that he's smart enough to realize this. He could arrange debates and townhalls to his heart's content but he won't, especially now, because his clowning would be 2fold, where not only would he get clowned for his ideas but his new schtick with complaining about the protesters would look extremely foolish.

Consider this scenario: I go to a Milo speech, as in, buy a ticket and sit in the actual auditorium, with a pignose, and when the speech starts I go on stage and enter a debate/argument with him.

1. What do you think would happen?

2. What do you think should happen?



p.s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pignose

p.p.s. 'mother****er' is a term of endearment
02-13-2017 , 08:51 AM
I have a very short list of 2p2ers who, when they make a contrary reply to another poster, I know devoid of all context that original poster has made some serious missteps and wrong turns somewhere.

th14 is on that list.


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Originally Posted by LordJvK
th14 what points are you trying to prove?
02-13-2017 , 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
Mother****er just stop.

You refuse to address this point:

Where in the **** was the microphone and podium and stage space for the arguer to make their argument against Milo?

There's a huge blind spot you guys have, and it's that if Milo or any of the other deplorable pseudointellectuals were having actual debates in front of crowds, or actual townhall style forums, the majority of the protestors would be instead lining up around the block to either see the Milos get clowned or clown them themselves. But they don't, and 1 thing I'll give Milo specifically is that he's smart enough to realize this. He could arrange debates and townhalls to his heart's content but he won't, especially now, because his clowning would be 2fold, where not only would he get clowned for his ideas but his new schtick with complaining about the protesters would look extremely foolish.

Consider this scenario: I go to a Milo speech, as in, buy a ticket and sit in the actual auditorium, with a pignose, and when the speech starts I go on stage and enter a debate/argument with him.

1. What do you think would happen?

2. What do you think should happen?



p.s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pignose

p.p.s. 'mother****er' is a term of endearment
None of that would matter, even if it were true. Speakers are allowed to speak and audiences are allowed to come listen in a free and liberal society. You are arguing against this, because you are not liberal.

You don't know what you're talking about anyway. All of these conservative speakers who get shouted down by your illiberal friends, fire alarms pulled, violent protests, the hecklers veto.... Milo, Shapiro, et al, they all typically have question answer sessions, and they do debates as well. Do you even youtoob?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0M1huX3d75Y
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o060w7URvAw
02-13-2017 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
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they all typically have question answer sessions

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You really went there huh?


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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Haha, Milo is a ridiculous troll, and you're just jealous he's more popular than you. Lol, it would be fun to see you two get into it. Wait:

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Originally Posted by 5ive
Ok, see, this is basic ****:

How can I assess the level of obliteration when the poor soul from the crowd isn't even given a microphone? I can't hear 2/3 of what he's saying.

Why would you post this tripe?
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Because it's funny and Fly has a boner for him.
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Originally Posted by 5ive
So, with all the obliteration videos of milo obliterating what people say to him, you picked the 1 where we can't hear what the person said? Strong maneuver.
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Well, I didn't watch it. I guess I'm not as big a fan of Milo as you and Fly.
02-13-2017 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
lord, what do you think should happen here? should the protesters not be allowed to assemble and protest? bc to my poorly educated self, that is the only alternative.
Notice that lord never answers these questions.
02-13-2017 , 11:52 AM
But anyhow,

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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
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You don't know what you're talking about anyway. All of these conservative speakers who get shouted down by your illiberal friends, fire alarms pulled, violent protests, the hecklers veto.... Milo, Shapiro, et al,

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Originally Posted by 5ive
...

Consider this scenario: I go to a Milo speech, as in, buy a ticket and sit in the actual auditorium, with a pignose, and when the speech starts I go on stage and enter a debate/argument with him.

1. What do you think would happen?

2. What do you think should happen?



p.s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pignose

...

Or just state you refuse to explore this topic and I'll scram as otherwise there's not enough !pizza! in the world for me to suffer this foolishness.


p.s. Because intellectual laziness knows no bounds, potentially, a pignose is not some sort of snubnose gun, it's a very powerful portable amplifier you can hook to your belt or wherever.

Last edited by 5ive; 02-13-2017 at 12:00 PM.
02-13-2017 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Notice that lord never answers these questions.
Those questions get to the crux of everything, not so coincidentally.

God bless 'em for trying to learn new stuff but the heckler's veto is not exactly a 'real' thing.

Last edited by 5ive; 02-13-2017 at 12:04 PM.
02-13-2017 , 11:57 AM
5ive don't bring post in from !!! threads that can in anyway break the rules or to make it about posters. Final warning and this applies to all content threads.
02-13-2017 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
5ive don't bring post in from !!! threads that can in anyway break the rules or to make it about posters. Final warning and this applies to all content threads.
lord knows i'm trying
02-13-2017 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
But anyhow,






Or just state you refuse to explore this topic and I'll scram as otherwise there's not enough !pizza! in the world for me to suffer this foolishness.


p.s. Because intellectual laziness knows no bounds, potentially, a pignose is not some sort of snubnose gun, it's a very powerful portable amplifier you can hook to your belt or wherever.
None of it matters, as I said. They are allowed to give speeches with or without answering questions if they want, and those groups who invited them are allowed to listen. They can do debates, which they have. Other groups can have other speakers, which they do. This is all consistent with the free exchange of ideas.
02-13-2017 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
There's a huge blind spot you guys have, and it's that if Milo or any of the other deplorable pseudointellectuals were having actual debates in front of crowds, or actual townhall style forums
Taking this even further--what academic discipline are the Milos of the world exploring? What research are they doing? How are they adding to human knowledge? What business do they have at a university?
02-13-2017 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
None of it matters, as I said. They are allowed to give speeches with or without answering questions if they want, and those groups who invited them are allowed to listen. They can do debates, which they have. Other groups can have other speakers, which they do. This is all consistent with the free exchange of ideas.
As are protests
02-13-2017 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
As are protests
I agree!
02-13-2017 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Taking this even further--what academic discipline are the Milos of the world exploring? What research are they doing? How are they adding to human knowledge? What business do they have at a university?
Lol, they are arguing against many of the social justice concepts you hold dear. This is something you should welcome, because if your ideals can't stand up to criticisms of a troll like Milo, good luck having them accepted by the greater public. What business does he have at a university? He was invited by a university sanctioned group of Republicans.

I expect all of these answers would come quickly to you if the roles were reversed and a group of authoritarian Christians were shouting down a feminist pro-abortion speaker.

      
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