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02-11-2017 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by turtletom
FYP but you could really add anyone who has achieved some level of success in society. If the SJW's dream came to fruition, and they had their way, the blame would just continue going downstream from cis white men once they realized that their removal didn't create great a utopia. It would happen in a similar fashion to Soviet Russia. That's provided they could hold power long enough.
That's not how this works. That not how any of this works.
02-11-2017 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by superslug
13ball cant even think of any examples of "liberals" suppressing free speech.
Its like he is walking around with his eyes closed.
And? To the extent that speakers are being protested the liberal can claim they are protesting at the speaker being given a platform without wanting the government to legally restrict the speakers right.

In any case my claim is that OSJers frequently make claims that are wrong and hold them to be evidence of winning an argument.
02-11-2017 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by semicompetent
Today, the effort to block the new Sec of Education to speak at a school.
When I was at Uni I hoped I'd get to be involved in these kind of smash the state protests, instead the student union sat around discussing what music could be deemed offensive on club nights and refused to join me when a royal visited campus.

It was at that point I figured the right were little bitches if these kids upset them so much by protesting in the manner youthful rebellion has always protested.
02-11-2017 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
When I was at Uni I hoped I'd get to be involved in these kind of smash the state protests, instead the student union sat around discussing what music could be deemed offensive on club nights and refused to join me when a royal visited campus.

It was at that point I figured the right were little bitches if these kids upset them so much by protesting in the manner youthful rebellion has always protested.
It was ever thus. Back in the late 80's early 90's when the NUS did protest their big reveal was someone dressed up as a giant gerbil to protest the Great Education Reform Bill. It's hard to smash the state dressed as a gerbil.
02-11-2017 , 09:19 AM
My favourite story is of how the students at Keele attempted to secede from England.
02-11-2017 , 09:20 AM
Pathetic losers.
02-11-2017 , 09:22 AM
God and Man at Yale (1951), The Closing of the American Mind (1987), reactionary right-wingers have been complaining about alleged moral indecency of university students for a long time.
02-11-2017 , 09:26 AM
The difference is that in the 1950s and so on they were battling against proper injustice.

Now they are literally little millennial twits talking about transgender loos. Wake up.
02-11-2017 , 09:27 AM
Doesn't sound like they're asking for very much at all then, does it?
02-11-2017 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by superslug
The examples are endless.
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Originally Posted by semicompetent
No need for laws. The liberal effort to suppress free speech is seen every day on many college campuses by actions to prevent speech that does not support the liberal narrative. UC-Berkley was just the latest example. Today, the effort to block the new Sec of Education to speak at a school. Heck, most of the politics threads in the other such forum on this site are clear examples of lib mob mentality to shut down any opposing view.
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
SJWs just get owned and destroyed in every thread. They never get sick of getting these asses handed to them because they never even realise this is happening. Clueless naive people.
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Originally Posted by superslug
13ball cant even think of any examples of "liberals" suppressing free speech.
Its like he is walking around with his eyes closed.
This is a whole bunch of bull**** whining. You guys know that free speech is actually suppressed in countries today, right? I know you want to be victims because it feels so good, but a crowd blocking a speaker isn't some worrisome "suppression" when the ideas are expressed freely on a billion blogs and in thousands of books. It is utterly ****ing inconsequential that Milo gets blocked from giving a speech. You know this.

Sure, it's outrageous and unfair. Fine. But acting like you are in North Korea is just pathetic.

You claim that this liberal SJW ideology is fascism but can't point to any laws that are even being proposed? Come on.
02-11-2017 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dereds
And? To the extent that speakers are being protested the liberal can claim they are protesting at the speaker being given a platform without wanting the government to legally restrict the speakers right.

In any case my claim is that OSJers frequently make claims that are wrong and hold them to be evidence of winning an argument.
I have never seen anyone say they have an issue with this. Protest away.

Im talking about no platforming conservative speakers, banning certain expressions on campus and claiming they are hate speech and even deeming certain political views as hate speech. All examples of suppressing hate speech even if not done in a legal sense.

As another poster already mentioned that bill C16 in Canada is an example of how "liberals " are now trying to make some words that come out of your mouth illegal.

Or The Canadian professor who lost his job when he expressed his opposition to abortion in a law class

Even Angela Murkel granted permission to the Turkish dictator to legally prosecute a comedian for making a joke about him.

The examples really are endless you are deluded if you cant see the attack on free speech. Or maybe you are just ok with it because they are only suppressing views you dont agree with.
02-11-2017 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
talking about transgender loos.
Fascism.
02-11-2017 , 09:29 AM
Yep, this is literally "but look at those uni students I disagree with".
02-11-2017 , 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by superslug
As another poster already mentioned that bill C16 in Canada is an example of how "liberals " are now trying to make some words that come out of your mouth illegal.

Or The Canadian professor who lost his job when he expressed his opposition to abortion in a law class

Even Angela Murkel granted permission to the Turkish dictator to legally prosecute a comedian for making a joke about him.
Stop crying about SJWs in the US then.
02-11-2017 , 09:34 AM
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even deeming certain political views as hate speech.
You are claiming that people shouldn't be allowed to express their opinions on whether something is or is not hate speech? Who is suppressing speech now?
02-11-2017 , 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
Doesn't sound like they're asking for very much at all then, does it?
You think asking for toilets across society to change for the sake of 0.6% of people isn't asking for a lot? Based mainly on the potential of hurting their feelings?

Mental.
02-11-2017 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
This is a whole bunch of bull**** whining. You guys know that free speech is actually suppressed in countries today, right? I know you want to be victims because it feels so good, but a crowd blocking a speaker isn't some worrisome "suppression" when the ideas are expressed freely on a billion blogs and in thousands of books. It is utterly ****ing inconsequential that Milo gets blocked from giving a speech. You know this.

Sure, it's outrageous and unfair. Fine. But acting like you are in North Korea is just pathetic.

You claim that this liberal SJW ideology is fascism but can't point to any laws that are even being proposed? Come on.
No one is acting like they are in North Korea. Are you saying we cant complain because someone has it worse? using that logic women here shouldnt complain because women in Saudi Arabia cant even drive. Also that is very ironic considering the amount of SJWs that compare Trump government to the third reich.

How am I being a victim? My speech has never been stifled or even any of my political views. All the guys im sticking up for have opposing political views from me.

And yes Bill C 16 in Canada is a law that is being proposed that will infringe on peoples free speech. The Bills biggest critic has studied authoritarian and fascist governments his whole life. You should give him a listen he is an incredible sharp guy you might learn a thing or two.

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02-11-2017 , 09:39 AM
02-11-2017 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by superslug
I have never seen anyone say they have an issue with this. Protest away.

Im talking about no platforming conservative speakers,
The part of my post you highlighted specifically referred to no platforming speakers and in the first sentence you say you aren't speaking about that and in the second you say you are?
02-11-2017 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
You are claiming that people shouldn't be allowed to express their opinions on whether something is or is not hate speech? Who is suppressing speech now?
Good god no. Call it hate speech all you want just dont ban it FFS. How can we be debating this long and you still dont get my argument?

Protest all day and all night for all I care. Just dont ban peoples speech, threaten to prosecute people or get people sacked for having opposing opinions.
02-11-2017 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dereds
The part of my post you highlighted specifically referred to no platforming speakers and in the first sentence you say you aren't speaking about that and in the second you say you are?
No platforming and protesting are two completely different things.

No platforming is just one of many ways to suppress free speach.

You want examples in the US. Just look at some of the university's multiple micro aggression's lists. Words that students are discouraged from saying.
02-11-2017 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by superslug
No one is acting like they are in North Korea. Are you saying we cant complain because someone has it worse? using that logic women here shouldnt complain because women in Saudi Arabia cant even drive.

How am I being a victim? My speech has never been stifled or even any of my political views. All the guys im sticking up for have opposing political views from me.

And yes Bill C 16 in Canada is a law that is being proposed that will infringe on peoples free speech. The Bills biggest critic has studied authoritarian and fascist governments his whole life. You should give him a listen he is an incredible sharp guy you might learn a thing or two.
I know nothing about Canada's bill. But if I'm going to be concerned about free speech in foreign countries, I'd probably worry more about Vladamir Kozlov in Kazakhstan or Gao Yu in China or everyone in North Korea.
02-11-2017 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by superslug
No platforming is just one of many ways to suppress free speach.
The right to free speech does not guarantee you a platform. People should be free to protest if a publisher decides to publish a book or a university invites a speaker.
02-11-2017 , 09:51 AM
People whose leaders get invited to our countries and no one from the left says a word.

But dare invite Donald Trump here and oh no.

Rank hypocrisy.

      
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