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02-02-2017 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
I highly disagree that they are an organized, uniformed force that you can pinpoint that there is something "good" or "wrong" with them as a whole. They are a large group of people that come together on issues, but definitely do not share the same concerns or causes in uniform.
I disagree entirely. I know it's like, "nonono, there's no such thing as SJW's" going on in the forum, but you watch the video, and you get to see the true colors of this movement (regardless of how organized it is, they do shout slogans together).

add: I mean, what's the tipping point where a movement stops being merely organic, and truly organized, both the SJWs, and the counter-punchers seem to be some of both.

Last edited by leavesofliberty; 02-02-2017 at 06:23 PM.
02-02-2017 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Yes, people try to get people fired. THIS HAS ALWAYS HAPPENED. It isn't new. It isn't confined to one ideology.
No it hasn't.

lol at the blatant dishonesty.
02-02-2017 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
You have no idea what you are talking about. You couldn't be more wrong, and you are doubling and tripling down on it.




Oh, now I understand.
Usually when someone wants to prove the other side is wrong, they provide something called "evidence." This could be in the form of an actual academic source, or something you are more familiar with, like a sign held up by a four year old. I will accept either.

Will is gleeful that a white nationalist shot somebody. I bet he fist pumped when he learned about Quebec too.
02-02-2017 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty
I disagree entirely. I know it's like, "nonono, there's no such thing as SJW's" going on in the forum, but you watch the video, and you get to see the true colors of this movement (regardless of how organized it is, they do shout slogans together).

I have to admit the SJW denial syndrome conspiracy theory stuff is a brand new one on me. It's mental.
02-02-2017 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Usually when someone wants to prove the other side is wrong, they provide something called "evidence." This could be in the form of an actual academic source, or something you are more familiar with, like a sign held up by a four year old. I will accept either.
Your overall description of how SJWs and anti-SJWs is about as wrong as humanly possible. I mean, there are books and endless articles written about this, yet you want to deny it all. They are all wrong and you, some Canadian on 2+2 is the one who gets it?

lol
02-02-2017 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Again, a Milo supporter shot somebody outside a speech of his two weeks ago. This is so, so much worse than what any SJW has ever done to Milo or anyone against him. This gets a giant shrug to those supporting him.
You understand there are at least more then one group. There are those supporting Milo (which not sure is anyone in this thread), and those who hold the opinion that he or his supporters should be able to say what they want without being assaulted.

The second group does not shrug off the shooting. But it is also a direct consequence of people being in a riot, worrying about their safety, and people trying to punch people in the face. That is sort of the result when you ignore the law and want to escalate the physical violence.
02-02-2017 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Then let individual employers make that judgment rather than shaming her on the internet. People here have said they are big on personal freedoms/choices. Let her make her choices, if someone doesnt want to hire her because of nudes...fine. That's not a reason for death threats etc though.
I agree 100%. Bullying is flat out wrong, especially to this extreme. And this is like so immature, I'm glad I'm not in the industry. Like I said, never really blended with the gamer crowd. People like her though make it toxic.
02-02-2017 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Your overall description of how SJWs and anti-SJWs is about as wrong as humanly possible. I mean, there are books and endless articles written about this, yet you want to deny it all. They are all wrong and you, some Canadian on 2+2 is the one who gets it?

lol
This is very good evidence, and about as much as you can ever expect from a post from Wil. I'm sure I will get some academic articles from someone who has more children than college credits though.
02-02-2017 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
This is very good evidence, and about as much as you can ever expect from a post from Wil. I'm sure I will get some academic articles from someone who has more children than college credits though.
I'm not even sure what this means. I have one child with one on the way. Is that a lot of children?

I graduated college, btw. Not that it matters.
02-02-2017 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ogallalabob
You understand there are at least more then one group. There are those supporting Milo (which not sure is anyone in this thread), and those who hold the opinion that he or his supporters should be able to say what they want without being assaulted.

The second group does not shrug off the shooting. But it is also a direct consequence of people being in a riot, worrying about their safety, and people trying to punch people in the face. That is sort of the result when you ignore the law and want to escalate the physical violence.
I like it when intelligent people post nothing but hardcore truth.

It cuts like crystal.
02-02-2017 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Maybe I don't notice it because we have a president attempting to ban Muslims. We have people pushing propaganda and lies about black crime. Yeah, I can see not liking that some guy was harassed because of his stupid shirt. But the idiots on Twitter affecting a few people don't bother me because they are utterly insignificant. And your attempts to portray them as some sort of serious problem are not grounded in reality.



I don't control these people and I have said that the tactics against Milo are counterproductive.
Good, so you condemn them.

Now if you could just understand that they are simply the tip of the iceberg. They're the representation of how ridiculously unhinged many people have become on the social justice end of the spectrum. You say there are lies about black crime, but would it matter if all of the crime stats your interlocutor presented were true, or would you find one mistake and call him a liar and racists?

Because that's what I see. Every day. Instead of acknowledging facts about black crime and then going into the root causes, like poverty and the drug war, having a conversation... the same sorts of people who harass someone for his stupid shirt and their defenders jump to trolling and shaming people who are defending the police, and dismiss them all as racists. Condemn that why won't you. I'll condemn lies about black violence, and you condemn lies about police. We can get somewhere then. But too few conversations ever get there because everyone is so outraged all the time and we're on the internet so we can't smack each other silly.

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
No, I mocked the example because of the banality of it. That seemed to go over your head.
Someone getting made fun of over a shirt or fired for calling a woman a slut just aren't problems I find worth devoting my time.

Again, a Milo supporter shot somebody outside a speech of his two weeks ago. This is so, so much worse than what any SJW has ever done to Milo or anyone against him. This gets a giant shrug to those supporting him.
Banal, yes, I agree. And so is Milo. But realize that many more people are going to end up shot at these types of protests, because the protesters are violent, throwing crap at cops, and burning ****... over Milo FFS. Banal indeed. The guy makes fun of feminists for a living. The protesters have the same attitude as many over in the Milo thread that it's cool to punch a Nazi. Hey, I agree in theory, except unlike them I don't think everyone is a Nazi. Apparently Milo and his supporters are fascists so they're fair game, except there's scant evidence he's anything but a troll, and most of his supporters are just kids who enjoy making fun of people like you.
02-02-2017 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Will is gleeful that a white nationalist shot somebody. I bet he fist pumped when he learned about Quebec too.
This is just another example of the disgusting type of behavior from your side. Have I ever once said anything in the remote vicinity of supporting violence? You implying I support shooting people is exactly the type of behavior we are talking about. Combined with your second statement (which I assume is the mosque shooting that just happened) must be taken as you trying to demonize me as a human being.

This is EXACTLY the type of behavior we are criticizing you people for. You REALLY want everyone to know you're a good white person, right? Tolerant and open-minded. Hey! Look at me! I'm a good white person!! Support me! I'm your friend! The more I condemn others for their intolerance, the better person I am!

It's pathetic.
02-02-2017 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
I'm not staying. Just wanted to point out Lords dumb****ery for his new audience since he completely infested the pog politics thread with it. Good luck all, add him to the pile.
ok
02-02-2017 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Good, so you condemn them.

Now if you could just understand that they are simply the tip of the iceberg. They're the representation of how ridiculously unhinged many people have become on the social justice end of the spectrum. You say there are lies about black crime, but would it matter if all of the crime stats your interlocutor presented were true, or would you find one mistake and call him a liar and racists?

Because that's what I see. Every day. Instead of acknowledging facts about black crime and then going into the root causes, like poverty and the drug war, having a conversation... the same sorts of people who harass someone for his stupid shirt and their defenders jump to trolling and shaming people who are defending the police, and dismiss them all as racists. Condemn that why won't you. I'll condemn lies about black violence, and you condemn lies about police. We can get somewhere then. But too few conversations ever get there because everyone is so outraged all the time and we're on the internet so we can't smack each other silly.



Banal, yes, I agree. And so is Milo. But realize that many more people are going to end up shot at these types of protests, because the protesters are violent, throwing crap at cops, and burning ****... over Milo FFS. Banal indeed. The guy makes fun of feminists for a living. The protesters have the same attitude as many over in the Milo thread that it's cool to punch a Nazi. Hey, I agree in theory, except unlike them I don't think everyone is a Nazi. Apparently Milo and his supporters are fascists so they're fair game, except there's scant evidence he's anything but a troll, and most of his supporters are just kids who enjoy making fun of people like you.
I genuinely haven't found a place where anyone thinks "everyone is a nazi." In fact, nobody has gotten punched in public for being a nazi since Richard Spencer, despite it being the most popular meme since then and videos of him being punched have been viewed millions of times. People like turtle have said that punching Spencer would be a slippery slope, it clearly hasn't been.
02-02-2017 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Well, we've found another mistake I can clear up real quick. I don't blame everything on "SJW", nor am I trying to smear the entire left with those complaints. Neither is Bill Maher here:



But you must reside in a bubble if you can't see how much and how often this silliness happens and how it effects our world politically. I mean, okay, it doesn't really bother you, and some of your friends here. Maybe, just maybe... could it be, perhaps, that you agree with like 99.9% of their ideas, so you have almost no experience dealing with their BS?

Guess what, it really does bother a lot of people, because not everyone agrees with you and them like 99.9% of the time about everything. And the insufferable nannying turns off way more people than it turns on, even sparking substantial backlashes and trolls like Milo Yabadabadoo to book deals. Wise up and tell your friends to stop feeding him, maybe condemn the violent protesters who keep trying to stop his campus speeches like the illiberal robespierres they are, and who will end up getting someone killed, for what?
FoldN, who just hates people being insufferable, is strangely a big fan of Bill Mahr.
02-02-2017 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
I genuinely haven't found a place where anyone thinks "everyone is a nazi." In fact, nobody has gotten punched in public for being a nazi since Richard Spencer, despite it being the most popular meme since then and videos of him being punched have been viewed millions of times. People like turtle have said that punching Spencer would be a slippery slope, it clearly hasn't been.
Seriously, your behavior is what we are talking about. You just went ape**** on wil for no reason. That's just weird... do you not get why? And you seem to have no clue about the type of violence that have been going on at the Milo protests. Clearly no slippery slope... http://www.ottawasun.com/2017/02/02/...demonstrations
02-02-2017 , 06:58 PM
I don't think Wil ever engages honestly, foldn. I do not respect Wil. I do not care if Wil respects me. He will never post evidence as part of his claims.

Foldn, you might not be that familiar with Canadian newspapers. Sun Media are tabloids. They are not credible sources. The pepper spray incident has been covered earlier by Dan nd I, but it is a banal example again. It is also not an example of a slippery slope. I would like an example of "everyone being a nazi." I haven't for instance, labeled anyone a nazi on this forum.
02-02-2017 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Good, so you condemn them.

Now if you could just understand that they are simply the tip of the iceberg. They're the representation of how ridiculously unhinged many people have become on the social justice end of the spectrum. You say there are lies about black crime, but would it matter if all of the crime stats your interlocutor presented were true, or would you find one mistake and call him a liar and racists?
The right are the people spreading #pizzagate and #gaamergate. Mosques are being burned and Muslims shot. That is the unhinged segment of the country. Yes, there are some on the left who are unhinged. I don't see any huge problems.

As for black crime stats, yes people can discuss them intelligently and honestly. That's generally not what happens. The alt-right aren't looking for an honest discussion, so even when the stats are accurate, they are propaganda. It's not hard to tell if someone is seriously interested in a discussion about crime. They will acknowledge the problem of poverty. They will acknowledge at leas the possibility of systemic racism. But that's not what you typically see. You see people drop the crimes stats as some sort of proof of black people's inferiority, sometimes with overt racist statements, sometimes not.

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the same sorts of people who harass someone for his stupid shirt and their defenders jump to trolling and shaming people who are defending the police, and dismiss them all as racists. Condemn that why won't you. I'll condemn lies about black violence, and you condemn lies about police. We can get somewhere then. But too few conversations ever get there because everyone is so outraged all the time and we're on the internet so we can't smack each other silly.
Of course I condemn people lying about the police. It's wrong and short-sighted. I condemn people who want to attack police or who say that all police officers are racist. I condemn people who attack people who are defending the police in good faith.
02-02-2017 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
I don't think Wil ever engages honestly, foldn. I do not respect Wil. I do not care if Wil respects me. He will never post evidence as part of his claims.

Foldn, you might not be that familiar with Canadian newspapers. Sun Media are tabloids. They are not credible sources. The pepper spray incident has been covered earlier by Dan nd I, but it is a banal example again. It is also not an example of a slippery slope.
The video in that link shows a man who was there to stand up for free speech with a bloody nose. And the girl got pepper sprayed for wearing a red hat. Dude, this **** is terrible and it's only a matter of time before someone get's killed. Over Milo, FFS.

You cannot bring yourself to see why this is terrible publicity for the social justice cause, or is this what the greater cause is really about? I don't think so. Violently shutting down political speech under the guise of stopping fascism, it better not be. It's hard to tell though, maybe Well Named can step in and explain.
02-02-2017 , 07:12 PM
Uh, foldn...I have posts in this very thread about 16 hours ago refuting basically your entire last post. Dan and I went over it. It might have been in the other Milo dedicated thread, but regardless you might want to look a little bit. When I talked about and condemned that kind of thing in many posts last night, you might want to ease up on the rhetoric against me.
02-02-2017 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
I don't think Wil ever engages honestly, foldn. I do not respect Wil. I do not care if Wil respects me. He will never post evidence as part of his claims.

Foldn, you might not be that familiar with Canadian newspapers. Sun Media are tabloids. They are not credible sources. The pepper spray incident has been covered earlier by Dan nd I, but it is a banal example again. It is also not an example of a slippery slope. I would like an example of "everyone being a nazi." I haven't for instance, labeled anyone a nazi on this forum.
Do you think I honestly want your "respect"? Everything about you is just wrong. Your spew is because you know I speak the truth. You are dishonest and a hypocrite. You can't even make a coherent argument.

This is why your group is despised by EVERYBODY. Everything about you people is feelings and what you deem how the world should be. Throw logic and fairness out the window, just make sure everyone feels good about themselves.

When I say you people are the most dangerous people I've ever seen, I'm not exaggerating. It's utterly horrifying that this religious mind-virus is a real thing. The end is coming for you people and I just can't wait to dance on your graves.
02-02-2017 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Here's my definition:

An SJW is someone who thinks that anyone who doesn't agree with his views is a racist/bigot.
Any one using the term usually is. And under 25 or mentally backward.
02-02-2017 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Do you think I honestly want your "respect"? Everything about you is just wrong. Your spew is because you know I speak the truth. You are dishonest and a hypocrite. You can't even make a coherent argument.

This is why your group is despised by EVERYBODY. Everything about you people is feelings and what you deem how the world should be. Throw logic and fairness out the window, just make sure everyone feels good about themselves.

When I say you people are the most dangerous people I've ever seen, I'm not exaggerating. It's utterly horrifying that this religious mind-virus is a real thing. The end is coming for you people and I just can't wait to dance on your graves.
Again, the SJW in this case is the person who thinks "nazis are bad." The SJW thinks Richard Spencer should be ashamed to further his thoughts on black genocide. The SJW is "the most dangerous people he's ever seen" meanwhile the person he is defending is saying...



Make no mistake what side Wil is on. He is for the side openly advocating white supremacy, the death of all black people and everyone else who they disagree with. Hint: When you think that people who oppose *literal nazis* are more disliked than nazis, you've lost the plot. You have so, so many meltdowns. I almost wished you would have actually welched and gotten banned rather than still having your content on this forum to be read by anybody.
02-02-2017 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FoldnDark
Seriously, your behavior is what we are talking about. You just went ape**** on wil for no reason. That's just weird... do you not get why?
They all act like this. It's because they know their positions are ridiculous. When you call them out on their virtue signalling they get butthurt about it. Their virtue signaling is obvious, because it has to be for the people they want to see it to recognize it. I'm surprised they don't get tattoos on their foreheads saying "I love black people". Sjws are PROUD peacocks, damnit.
02-02-2017 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Uh, foldn...I have posts in this very thread about 16 hours ago refuting basically your entire last post. Dan and I went over it. It might have been in the other Milo dedicated thread, but regardless you might want to look a little bit. When I talked about and condemned that kind of thing in many posts last night, you might want to ease up on the rhetoric against me.
Well good. If you condemn that then good. That's what we need more of. It's ****ing weird as hell to see all this violence and shutting down of speech from the left side of the aisle. I'm used to worrying about right wing religious zealots, been running away from them all my life. But now we have them on all sides and there's nowhere to hide.

I can't figure out if I'll be protesting Trump next week or the idiot little Robespierres. If this country ends up in a civil war over this BS, I'm coming to Canada and ****ing all your women.

      
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