I don't blame you.

But then again, each time he types or opens his mouth , he creates a Trump policy supporter, or atleast someone who is against the regressive left what he stands for.

Legal residents were turned away.

No it wasn't. Read your source again until you understand it.

It was the same thing. I lived it.

Anti-SJWs seem to have trouble accepting obvious facts.

There's never too much empathy for Decent White Folk you silly goose.

You were denied a visa?

Obviously not, I had a jolly good time in New Orleans.

Being from the traditional leftist Northern England background I am, I already thought I had a **** ton of empathy for my fellow proletariat. Now I'm finding out that I was supposed to be empathising with their need to go far right to spite some guys they're not even aware of. It's new territory for me.

Delusional fools may be delusional that some people are delusional fools.

Talking about delusional... blaming other people for the choices made of who to vote for and who to support that are not theirs.

When trump voters and supporters are not accountable for trump, well that is alternate reality accountability.

edit- classic case of pointing one finger while 3 more point back at you.

I am blaming Hilary for losing the election.

Finally, something we an all agree on.

There might be some real complaint about some progressives or leftists buried in all this, but mostly what I see ITT is conspiratorial-style thinking about SJWs. Some abstract group of people are identified as being the cause of major problems in society. This group is not clearly identified, no leader or spokespeople are mentioned, no writers or publications that are representative of this political group are used to describe them. No statement of beliefs is pointed to as describing their views. Instead, they are defined by their character, usually in sharply negative and obviously unfriendly terms. At that point of course, no one will agree to represent SJW, at least, not without trying to change the meaning of the term. So the conversation doesn't go anywhere.

The stuff you quoted doesn't involve a claim about 2012 Obama voters who voted Trump in 2016, which is the claim I was pushing back against. I share your concerns about many of the things you just quoted, but here you seemed to be making a claim about a specific group of people. It's an empirical question, but one for which there isn't any good data, and one for which there are a lot of competing plausible explanations. For example, the voters in question seem to be concentrated in specific states: Ohio, Michigan, PA, Wisconsin. Obama voters in these states who voted for Trump may as likely be motivated by a certain economic populism (especially Trump's anti-trade rhetoric) as by opposition to "political correctness". I would love to see a sociological study (large survey sample and some in-depth interviews would be good) on this question, but absent that kind of data we're just speculating, and I don't think the speculation deserves the level of certainty you seem to want to give it.

Clinton wasn't as skilled a campaigner as Obama. Tilting that she used her final rebuttal to talk about Ms. Piggy in the debate. Shows a complete lack of priorities. This is the part where you're suppose to stick the most important points, and drive them home. Beauty contests aren't all that important though.

It's very simple. People who voted for Trump say that they appreciate that he "tells it like it is" without getting mealy mouthed or trying to be PC.

Nigel Farage has exactly the same appeal. And Boris Johnson too.

I agree it is not the sole factor but a contributing one to a whole number of factors all moving in the same direction at the same time. "Cometh the hour", as they say, "cometh the man". Trump just so happened to be the man.

Althusser would call it "overdetermination".

guy on npr today touched on this a bit today. he talked about some backlash to pc. but he didnt use inflammatory terms like sjw.

wonder if you guys agree with him or if his criticism is too mild.

starts at like 2:30 and then skips around a bit (its only 7 min). he does make similar arguments that yall do, using terminology like "stridently demonizing people," "revolt against pc."

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/02/512998...-the-tea-party

Avoidance and denial of prejudices being described accurately looks like what?

Did the people who voted for Trump who say they appreciate that he "tells it like it is" also vote for Obama? Or did they vote for Republicans? There is evidence that concern about political correctness is already a strong predictor of partisan affiliation (I recall seeing similar poll data in the past, but I'm having trouble finding a link now), and little evidence that an unusual number of normally Democratic voters voted for Trump. I'd also argue that "concern with political correctness" isn't just a cause of Republican affiliation, but also very much the designed effect of much of the Right's discourse.

"Overdetermination" is essentially the point I'm making about not focusing narrowly on a single cause for the election result.

Nope. I think Hillary ran a competent campaign, maybe slightly above median.

I'll nominate zikzak because he evidently forgot the first rule of fight club

Agreed.

And I'd also point out that the "SJWs made Trump" theory does not explain Obama's popularity. If people are voting Trump (or not voting Clinton) because they are tired of SJWs, then why didn't Obama's favorability/job approval numbers get hurt by this backlash?

Well, I guess it was impossible for you to be right about everything :P

Or, maybe, possibly, I could be slightly bitter. But I'm discounting this heavily.

I understand your confusion, not really... while you are normally a pretty good poster, you seem willfully obtuse on this subject. There are posters in the Milo thread who call Milo a fascist worthy of violence, and who celebrate the cancellations of his speeches and the violent protests like those at the various state schools that have proved to be a sort of "hecklers" veto. These are good examples of illiberal beliefs and behaviors of "SJWs", and also very clearly counterproductive action that helps lift up a trollish provocateur like Milo to gain hundreds of thousands of followers. That's the sort of free advertising Trump thrived on throughout the election season.