You were talking about immigration, I assumed you meant happenings in Europe.

If an American is worried about immigration destroying their childhood town that's triple bananapants insane. Immigrants aren't flocking to Topeka, KA or wherever the ****.

No, you're version of leftism amplifies the feels of minority groups and ignores and/or demeans those of the rest. When that version becomes the norm (or the perceived norm), it becomes a bit of a problem during democratic elections.

I don't like people who are fake outraged over nothing. But I don't let them bother me because there aren't very many of them and they have little power.

I also don't like racists and there are WAY more of them--including many in powerful positions in the current administration. Why should I give a **** about some college kids doing unreasonable things?

There you have found our disagreement. I think many, many posters ITF and people IRL get fake outraged over nothing. You may successfully argue it's not always fake.

More people are racist than they are fake outraged?

Did you see what happened when 100 people were inconvenienced at airports last weekend?

What world do you live in?

I'll go on record as being angry about that, and I would have been outraged if Trump had defied the courts. I think that would have actually been fascism.

Blaming SJW on Trump is a bit of a stretch. Trump got elected by his voters that voted for him.

Trump flipped the blue wall because of his message economically and it resonated with them. Whether he delivers or not to them is another story.

I don't think SJW fake outrage played much of an outcome in those 4 brexit states.

Wait, 'My' version of leftism?

We can go to the tape, I was pretty much the last 1 off the bus in regards to downtrodden white folk. I held on 'til the election. I had faith.

But also, that's my point. Even if the feelings are amplified the policies are universal. There's no platform of "Free Health Care, except those dummy dum white folks who were considering voting for trump!"

You're talking about lip service and pandering to feelings, not actual concern of feelings. The slogan is 'Black Lives Matter' and not 'Poor White Lives Don't Matter' despite what right wing AM radio and breitbart push out. It's a potential insult to those people that they'd need pandering to.

And speaking of BLM, this goes both ways. I did a hard face palm when Bernie got protested as I thought, uh, he calls himself a socialist, so did MLK, so did the original BPP, so did many others in the movement, and there's a reason for that. Maybe let's hold off on protesting literally EVERYbody.

Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents defied the orders of federal judges regarding Donald Trump’s travel bans on Sunday, according to members of Congress and attorneys who rallied protests around the country in support of detained refugees and travellers from seven Muslim-majority countries.

Although SJW definitely have a hierarchy of oppression.

This was made clear when not even a few hours after Cartoonists Charlie Hebdo were murdered, the discussion pushed by SJWs was about how awful drawing a Muhammad cartoon was. Charlie Hebdo Cartoonists who are leftists themselves were thrown under the bus among many SJWs.

hooked that 1 into the rough

That's what I was watching closely on Monday morning, as my rabble rousing gf was ready to start an insurrection. But according to this report, http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/30/politi...border-dulles/ so I went back to work. But yes, this crap is getting scary, and the anti-Trump protests are warranted, imo. I'm in some "secret" facebook groups myself.

I live in a world where the president of the United States is attempting to fulfil his campaign promise to ban Muslims from entering the country and you think people are "fake outraged" by it.

Yes, because I saw no such outrage when Obama did something like this last year.

I know because I was travelling to the US in March 2016, and my father is Iranian, and he banned travel for a period and I had to check if I was still okay to go.

Didn't see a single protester.

I didn't see protests when various Middle Eastern leaders from countries who have a total travel ban on Jews and who haven't taken a single refugee from Syria visited the Queen in the past five years.

These people didn't seem to care then. But they care about this?

Yes, fake outrage.

And in regards to the topic, according to the logic of this thread when the Bernie incident made me face palm, I should've... called the whole thing off?

"Oh hey guys, let's stop marching, some dumb college kid did something dumb, so it turns out, black lives don't matter after all. Yeah, sorry."

Because Obama didn't do something similar.

I'm sorry but this has been explained to death. Maybe somebody else can elaborate.

He did. I remember it well. He literally did the same thing. Three countries were affected.

How do I know. My dad is Iranian and he was travelling to the US, two weeks after I was going there myself for a conference. I also have a cousin who is a pilot who lives in Miami.

I tend to know when their travel is affected. This happened last year. EXACT same deal. Exact.

Only difference was that it was under-the-radar and Obama didn't sign it with a big gold pen.

No one gave a toss then. Now they care?

Pull the other one.

Because Obama did nothing like this and Obama never promised to ban all Muslims.

Link to Obama's travel ban in 2016 please.

So if Americans don't protest in England so that another country will change their dumb policy, then it's fake outrage now? That seems very unreasonable.

This is your whole problem with the SJW angle. You are deciding what's "fake" based on unreasonable expectations of how others should behave. Yes, I'm going to protest the actions of my country in my country way before I protest some visiting foreign leader. So would literally anyone else.

<sigh> Did Obama campaign on a Muslim ban? Did Obama ask Giuliani to draft a Muslim ban that would be legal? Did Obama **** it up by not giving anyone the appropriate amount of lead time on what it meant and how to implement it?

The problem is Trump is probably going to give us lots of legit things to protest. He's the monster the PC left helped create, and now the rest of us are going to have to pitch in to make sure he doesn't eat everyone.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...isiting-europe

That was Obama's travel ban. It caused a lot of stress for Iranians travelling to the US early last year and was literally exactly the same, exactly as what has happened now.

Difference is that this year, loads of people who don't have full information have basically wrongly seen Trump's order as "a muslim ban", which it obviously isn't.

This is the difference between someone who believes only in facts, and someone who gets carried away by hysteria and ideological narratives.

This is wrong. Even your source calls it "visa restrictions.":

Your own source proves you incorrect in the second paragraph. Obama signed a law that made it more difficult to get visas. THAT IS NOT A TRAVEL BAN. There was no period of time when visas were not issued.

The word "ban" appears nowhere in the article you cited.

It was the same thing.

Let's backtrack again. There are SJWs, anti-SJWs, and both of these groups you have down as being anti-racism, anti-sexism, and then there's the alt-right, which you haven't speculated on but pretty sure they aren't, and THEN there's the guys who elected trump, the ones pushed by the SJWs they don't know about. Those are the guys I'm trying to figure out if, in your narrative, are anti-racism, anti-sexism and chose to vote against all of that because of SJWs.

That's where we are right now in your narrative of the political climate.

They articulated their subconscious thought processes? Weird.


Nope, I'm trying to figure out if the guys who aren't SJWs, anti-SJWs, or alt-right, were against racism and sexism to begin with and then voted against those principles as some backlash against the SJWs they don't know about, or if they were like that to begin with and this election just provided an avenue for expression.

I thought I was on the side with too much empathy.

Well, my sister is an immigration attorney and I had this explained to me at length by her before I started talking **** on the internet, so I guess we're at an impasse.

Did you or your family get denied?