A sexism thread... - Page 23 - Politics version 7.0 -- Two Plus Two Poker Forums

Actually, I do think it's fair what they do as well. If it's the case that women are doing a great public duty in producing future consumers and labourers, great! Let's all chip in and provide childcare subsidies or assistance. What I don't like is the expectation or obligation that the burden should fall on employers. Society at large benefits from these consumers and labourers, but the employers of childbearing women bear a disproportionate chunk of this, because **** businesses or something.

07-10-2013 , 12:02 AM

#552

Nichlemn

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 9,478

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul D

Ok then, give me your explanation for why it's fair that a broad public benefit should be disproportionately paid for by someone who happens to say, regularly exchange money for cleaning services with a women.

07-10-2013 , 12:10 AM

#553

AlexM

ignored

Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 20,655

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nichlemn

Not sure if irrelevant troll or subtle reference to differences in life expectancy between the sexes.

I just think there's not enough discussion about pensions in this forum.

07-10-2013 , 12:27 AM

#554

Paul D

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 14,689

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nichlemn

Imma need a cite that someone who exchanges money with a mere cleaning woman pays disproportionate amounts into family leave. I mean if they're only exchanging money with a sole woman it doesn't lead me to believe they are even yielding that great of a burden of the costs lol.

I favor of markets rather than command economies. Also, I believe socioeconomic issues are more complicated than saying **** you to women who may or may not become pregnant while they're employed.

07-10-2013 , 12:53 AM

#555

ikestoys

banned

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 94,424

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

I mean, nakedly assuming that women will be the ones needing to take time off after a pregnancy because they'll be the primary caretakers is sexist to begin with.

That's the weakest sexism assertion itt. Unless obvious probabilities are sexist.

07-10-2013 , 02:22 AM

#556

MrWookie

Don't Call Me Meredith

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94,159

Ikes,

It's almost like I put three words on the end that might indicate to people who can read that there is more sexism to the post.

07-10-2013 , 02:23 AM

#557

Low Key

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 33,327

Ikes's been off his game all day. Still giving 110%, but just not connecting like normal.

07-10-2013 , 03:56 AM

#558

Carnivore

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8,236

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nichlemn

Employers deterred by risk of pregnancy when hiring

Damn right they should be deterred if they have to pay for 39 weeks of maternity leave and give 52 weeks off from work.

07-10-2013 , 03:59 AM

#559

Carnivore

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8,236

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul D

lol such foul logic itt lately

"lets not hire someone who produces future workers with their vagina because something something"

as if there's a shortage of people in this world......lmfao

07-10-2013 , 08:59 AM

#560

Paul D

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 14,689

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnivore

Damn right they should be deterred if they have to pay for 39 weeks of maternity leave and give 52 weeks off from work.

http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/benefits-leave/fmla.htm

07-10-2013 , 04:21 PM

#561

ianlippert

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,960

Quote:

Originally Posted by tzwien

Because I'm a man, I pay more for car insurance. How dare those sexists. How dare employers take risk into account when hiring someone or paying their wages.

It wouldn't be such a disproportionate risk if men bore a fairer share of the career sacrifice to raise young children.

07-10-2013 , 06:12 PM

#562

Kedu

temp-banned

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,704

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianlippert

It wouldn't be such a disproportionate risk if men bore a fairer share of the career sacrifice to raise young children.

Blaming the victim itt.

07-10-2013 , 10:11 PM

#563

ianlippert

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,960

Men are the victims?

07-10-2013 , 11:42 PM

#564

tzwien

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,267

Everyone is a victim to market forces. When they don't like it they just lobby to the government to distort the **** out of it in their favor.

07-10-2013 , 11:54 PM

#565

zikzak

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 22,198

Quote:

Originally Posted by tzwien

Everyone is a victim to market forces. When they don't like it they just lobby to the government to distort the **** out of it in their favor.

You say this like it's a bad thing. People do not live to serve the market, the market exists to serve people. And when the market fails at that (which it often does), the market can **** right the hell off as far as I'm concerned.

07-11-2013 , 04:17 AM

#566

tzwien

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,267

Government distorted markets fail often you mean. There's a reason they fail.

07-11-2013 , 06:16 AM

#567

ianlippert

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,960

Quote:

Originally Posted by tzwien

Everyone is a victim to market forces. When they don't like it they just lobby to the government to distort the **** out of it in their favor.

Market forces are where we see the effects of unequal pay but the causes are from inequality in the expected gender roles our society currently holds, ie sexism.

07-11-2013 , 05:18 PM

#568

blackchilli

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,027

Long paid maternity leave is standard in Singapore so employers tend not to hire women who they think are going to get married soon.

Also, lol at the creepy smile beautiful guy. Good god.

09-22-2013 , 02:42 PM

#569

CallyGal

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 170

Love how all guy players try to bluff me! Get over your self!

09-27-2013 , 10:40 AM

#570

Bobito

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 527

Quote:

Originally Posted by tzwien

Government distorted markets fail often you mean. There's a reason they fail.

Markets fail when there is inadequate government intervention. Unregulated markets are generally terribly biased towards a few participants. A good example of a very "unfree" and heavily regulated market is the stock market.

Page 23 of 23

First

3 13 18 19 20 21 22 23

Last

...

Page 23 of 23

First

3 13 18 19 20 21 22 23

Last