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08-10-2013 , 11:12 PM

#101

zikzak

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Bull Moosavist

08-11-2013 , 12:09 AM

#102

Low Key

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Did anyone say HMOs yet? Does that count?

08-30-2013 , 04:25 AM

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Hector Cerif

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dids

Hector - if you think the guy isn't being overtly and intentionally racist you are just dumb as hell. He is, you do- ergo why you're a god awful poster.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurto

I assume (hope) hector is trolling by pretending to be obtuse about Zynga's obvious attempt to troll. As if anyone, anywhere in the US could be simultaneously oblivious to the cultural associations of watermelon and collard greens while also coincidentally picking those exact 2 choices as examples in a political post. I'm sure Hector is doing some multi-level play by pretending to believe that Zynga could have innocuously posted that. (Of course the ultimately mind game would be Hector pretending to be ineffective bad poster while simultaneously he IS zynga too!)

Also- Zynga going straight to watermelon and collard greens was really bad trolling. No build up. no subtlety. It was "death by Cop" - he was expecting to just be attacked and banned.

You guys are complete ******s. Firstly I'm not arguing that he's being racist, I'm arguing that he's not intentionally racist. The reason being that dude constantly denies being motivated by racism whenever I, or anyone else, accuses him of being so.

You all are giving him a lot more brain-power credit than I am for thinking he is putting on some massive level here. I just think he's some dumb, naive kid.

Last edited by Hector Cerif; 08-30-2013 at 04:27 AM. Reason: Wait, are we still talking about this? Slow pony?

08-30-2013 , 11:12 AM

#104

kurto

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Originally Posted by Hector Cerif

Umm... you're saying he's not intentionally being racist? He's so dumb that he didn't realize that talking about blacks eating watermelon isn't a stereotype about blacks? Its not like its a new thing, its been around since the times of slavery.

The fact that he denies he's racist is hardly compelling since most racists don't own up to it.

Quote:

In March 1916, Harry C. Browne recorded a **** song titled "****** Love a Watermelon Ha!, Ha! Ha!".[13] Such songs were popular during that period and many made use of the watermelon stereotype.[5] The script for Gone with the Wind (1939) contained a scene in which Scarlet O'Hara's slave Prissy, played by Butterfly McQueen, eats watermelon; the actress refused to perform this.[8] Usage of this stereotype died down circa 1970, although its continued power as a stereotype could still be recognized in period films, such as Watermelon Man (1970), The Watermelon Woman (1996), and Bamboozled (2001).[5] Watermelons also provided a theme for many racist jokes in the 2000s.[11]

Protesters against African Americans frequently, among other things, hold up watermelons;[2] stereotypical imagery of President Barack Obama consuming watermelon has been the subject of viral emails circulated by political opponents. After his election, racist watermelon-themed imagery of Obama has continued to be created and endorsed, some of it by members of the Republican Party.[5]

WIKIPEDIA

I agree that he's dumb, but I don't think he's so dumb that he's completely ignorant about the negative associations with blacks and watermelon.

09-01-2013 , 10:57 AM

#105

bernie

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Originally Posted by Hector Cerif

that's all it takes is constant denial?

Someone call David Duke.

b

09-02-2013 , 03:39 AM

#106

Nichlemn

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True story: I'd never even heard of collard greens before this thread. Then again, I'm a New Zealander.

09-02-2013 , 10:39 AM

#107

AlexM

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Originally Posted by synth_floyd

Not sure if OP is serious or if OP is these guys:

And girls...

09-02-2013 , 10:21 PM

#108

Hector Cerif

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bernie

that's all it takes is constant denial?

Someone call David Duke.

b

To be an unintentional racist? Yeah, honest denial.

09-03-2013 , 12:47 PM

#109

steelhouse

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Did Reagan ever balance the budget or want to do so? No it promoted a massive defense buildup even though he wanted to cut taxes and we were in deficit. Reagan was not a conservative.

Bush I was originally a conservative. Bush II definitely was not a conservative, he would have fired Chaney if he said "deficits don't matter". Nixon did price controls.

No Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Clinton I, Bush II, and Obama are all liberals. Liberals don't build bridges, they take conservatives money to build bridges.

What did conservatism accomplish:

1. Led to virtually all growth of the country.
2. Let to protection of wildlife and wildlife areas.
3. Virtually all the inventions were done by conservatives.
4. Were responsible for all the social justice laws.
5. Supported balanced budgets which is the same as being anti-Nazi.

09-03-2013 , 12:49 PM

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Hector Cerif

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****. How did sh find this forum? Come on guys, which one of you told him?

09-04-2013 , 05:53 AM

#111

JiggsCasey

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steelhouse

Depends on what words mean, I guess. They surely were con on most issues, if not entirely fiscal. If you wanna nit, they sure weren't liberal, either, then.

Corporatist, for sure. All of them. That doesn't make them "liberal."

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelhouse

What did conservatism accomplish:

1. Led to virtually all growth of the country.
2. Let to protection of wildlife and wildlife areas.
3. Virtually all the inventions were done by conservatives.
4. Were responsible for all the social justice laws.
5. Supported balanced budgets which is the same as being anti-Nazi.

all five of these range from only partly true to flat wrong.

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