Damn, even the dogs in ferguson are racist.

It is not my opinion that there is less racism today - it really is a fact.

Hell YES I feel better knowing there is less racism today in this country. I am damn proud of this country for that. There is still a lot to be improved upon but we have made some great strides.

I don't care what others do once they stop and think about how less racist we are. I do get tired of articles pandering to stupid people that suggest that America is somehow more racist today, but deep down I know a lot of people aren't fooled by this nonsense.

It's a fact, in your opinion. The factual strength of your opinion of what racism is or isn't would have to be determined before assuming you have a reliable opinion about racism and how much racism there is.

People are saying 'racism is back and growwing', and you are saying, 'but it's okay, it's not as much as before and it's nonsense, i'm tired, and I feel good'.

Looks to me like you don't have a quality opinion about racism or people, and haven't really thought what it means when people say 'racism is happening'. Maybe take an opportunity to re-examine your opinions and facts?

I must point out yet again that having "less racism" in America today than in the past means basically nothing. Yeah, sure, there's no slavery, Jim Crow apartheid, regular lynchings, redlining, mass discrimination in housing and employment, and you even have some people who are able to achieve great success like President Obama. But you still have school segregation, mass incarceration, police brutality, discrimination in normal public life and in the workplace, and on and on and on. America was completely based on slavery and apartheid economics in order to become what it is today. You can't really sit here and say that because it's slightly better than the past, that everything is okay. That's horse**** and everyone knows it.

This is correct! The only person who has the temerity to say it is an actual conservative. White supremacy IS conservatism in the current political moment. Thank you for being honest about this mickey.

All white supremacists are conservatives is not the same thing as all conservatives are white supremacists.

Doesn't matter. The acknowledgement of connection does though.

Thanks, trump.

Of course there is a connection. This was a self evident fact way before Trump.

But of course that distinction matters.... It's an incredibly important distinction.

All jihadists are Muslim. That doesn't mean that all Muslims are jihadists.

I'm not saying all of anybody are anything. I'm saying that the values of "white supremacy" and "conservatism" are so intertwined and codependent on each other, they're practically the same ideology right now.

Why should we value this opinion while Islam is not in the same category as Conservative?

How does using this weak comparison help conservatives who wants to be rid of an influence of supremacy in conservatism?

It's like a different direction from the internal conservative problem at hand that is also lots of people's problem.

Why go that direction in this spot?

Conservative Supremacists.

Like, you gotta ask yourself, why do "conservatives" say they want less government, but then they want to go back to enforcing a federal ban on MJ, bring back stop and frisk, and bring back private prisons and deport even more people than we were already deporting? That's not small government at all, those are all authoritarian actions to put white supremacy into action through violence. Same thing with less restrictive gun laws, "stand your ground" laws that have been shown to be racially applied through the courts, and Voter ID laws which make it harder for minorities to vote. These are all big government ideas. The only time they really want small govt is when it comes to enforcing civil rights, like with the transgender bathroom memo put out by Trump's admin. This is why "state's rights" is such a sham. It's always a state's right to disenfranchise or take away civil/human rights from its citizens that they're arguing for.

There is no reasonable measure out there that suggests there is more racism in any time period before now. This is not my opinion. This is a matter of fact.

Most liberals would love nothing more than be able to point to research that shows how much more racist we are as a nation, but not even the most left leaning professor is creative enough to find such research.

So when I said...
...you thought I meant to say I'm not excited about less racism and I think we've done enough? That is an interesting interpretation.

You can call that a fact repetitively until tomorrow and it doesn't matter if it is or not. Your opinion that it is a fact rests upon what you factually know about racism.

I'll tell you what I think. I think you look like you don't know much about racism happening now because of the argument you chose around whether racism is less or more than whenever. That doesn't look like a responsive position to 'racism is happening', it looks like talking about something else.

curious... when the Boehner-Obama debt ceiling "holiday" expires in a couple of weeks, who here has any confidence a Congress (at war with itself) will create a new ceiling for the dictator?

When the meager tax revenue figures come in a month later, there's no way it accounts for our federal government's $75B/month spending requirements.

Treasury will be out of cash by summer. Expect a government shutdown, and Agent Orange will suddenly learn that tax cuts probably aren't a very good idea right now... At all.

You are constructing a straw man. We are not talking about how much racism there used to be. We are talking about action we (and you) can take such that there is less racism tomorrow and for the rest of this century than there would have been without those actions.

The reason this whole less racism today thing came up was in response to a really stupid article (i think it was the wash. post) that quoted a few Indian students who were all of a sudden scared to come to the US because of 2 murders (that seemed to be racial motivated). I was trying to remind you all how stupid some people are and how poor the perspective can be. Your argument has proven they are not alone.

This is not a straw man. There really are people ITT and even more ppl on 2+2 I've talked to that believe there is more racism today than years ago.

I am all for taking more steps to continue to bend the curve that is declining racism.

Then calling out racist crimes for what they are is probably the best line you can take. Your line of arguing that immigrant communities shouldn't feel scared is moot and irrelevant. They are scared, they see an uptick in violence against all minorities, not just Indians. Some of it is done by our enforcement agencies. How can you deny what they are feeling? "Don't worry community that just lost a member, years ago he probably would have been subject to a lot more racism." If you want to make a comment on what they are feeling, you should say "we will prosecute this guy, and anyone else who is going walking around attacking random brown people."

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racists have been embolded by trump rhetoric and alt right scumbags. racism is worse against all groups than it was 3-10 years ago.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...hate-crimes-us
By definition there's not less racism than before in the United States.

and even if you are correct, and we are less racist than ever and even if we are far far less racist. who effin cares?

racism is still horrible right now. there is an active campaign to disenfranchise black ppl. there is detestable rhetoric that resembles nazi ideas being directed at mexican immigrants. there is a currently a mainstream view that islam is a "religion of hate" that should be "stamped out."

its nice that you feel really great about how things are. I dont think that reflects well on your character or your ability to accurately describe reality.