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02-26-2017 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamite22
Downright scary? The 5-10% range includes many western European countries
And? Are you saying it's all fine and dandy in Western Europe? Also I noticed you didn't address my other claims about the higher the % the worse it gets, and due to demographic changes and birth rates the % grows over time, as the native populations are already stabilized in terms of birth rates.
02-26-2017 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
No. I don't think so in this case.

Islam is different. It is really, truly different. Islam isn't just a religion, it's a way of life. It encompasses religion, politics, and social behavior. It touches every part of a Muslim person's life.

Show me a country where Islam permeates any meaningful % of the population where they don't have massive problems? I mean, the >90% Muslim countries are total and complete hellholes, we all can agree to that. But even the ones that have as little as 5-10% are downright scary.

We have, what? Less than 1% Muslims in this country? I think that's probably OK, but even then we've had some awful incidents. The Fort Hood shooting, the Orlando shooting, the Boston bombings, San Bernadino. These things should really make you pause and think a little bit.

The thing that really baffles me are the children of immigrants who act in this manner. The Boston Bombing is totally bizarre to me. A normal, well-adjusted, nice kid who was in college blew up a bunch of innocent people attending a social event. Why? Why would someone who has never suffered politically, socially, or economically act like that? His friends at college were literally saying "Nah, they got the wrong guy, couldn't have been him I was with him yesterday", and I believe them that they were sure he couldn't have done that.

Islam doesn't bend and it isn't tolerant. Show me where in the world Islam lives alongside other cultures where there are no problems?

The hubris displayed from the left on this issue is shocking. People have a right to be concerned. We look at the results and it's only normal for people to question it.

"Islam is a religion of peace"
Someone blows something up.

"Islam is a religion of peace"
Someone shoots a bunch of people.

"Islam is a religion of peace"
Someone drives a car into a crowd of people.

We aren't stupid, we see wtf is happening right in front of our eyes. If Islam truly was a religion of peace, we wouldn't be seeing these things happen. I mean, the Amish aren't killing people. We aren't worried about the Mormons. The Southern Baptists aren't planting bombs at races. You can feel how you want about it, I'll grant you that. If you think it's totally fine and you aren't worried about any issues, then go right ahead. But don't think you get to tell others how they should feel about it.

Maybe I just come from a totally different view when it comes to this type of thing. After the Virginia tech shooting the shame and panic that swept through the Korean community was stunning. If I'd have done something like that I think my entire family would have killed themselves in shame. The behavior of some of these people is utterly horrifying, and for the left to sugar-coat it is amazing to me.
Well said Will.

The Boston bombers are a great example of what I mean by back door trojan horse. They were radicalized by what they read on the internet. Why increase the chance of this happening during a time that ISIS has stated they want to exploit the refugee program to get at America. It takes just one major attack to inflict mass casualties and mass economic disaster. The left thinks we fear all immigrants. I just fear the one terrorist that slips through.
02-26-2017 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
I just fear the one terrorist that slips through.
Have you considered seeking therapy for your frights?

Something I just read recently:
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Maybe it's the total emasculation of men these days, or something to do with social media, but men these days are just complete pussies.
My liberal blindfold was on. Had no idea the situation was this bad
02-26-2017 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by lenC
Something I just read recently:

My liberal blindfold was on. Had no idea the situation was this bad
Sounds like a smart guy.
02-26-2017 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by lenC
Have you considered seeking therapy for your frights?

Something I just read recently:

My liberal blindfold was on. Had no idea the situation was this bad
You've missed the point.
02-26-2017 , 09:40 AM
chez are you ****ing kidding me right now
The post has been deleted. Report it please rather than calling for moderation in the threads.

Wil you cannot make sweeping claims about Islam (or Muslims) in that way. Final warning not to.

Last edited by chezlaw; 02-26-2017 at 01:17 PM.
02-26-2017 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dynamite22
Downright scary? The 5-10% range includes many western European countries


The world is scary to wil

See: the video he posted of people hanging outside a store in the middle of the day that us normal folk would supposedly be terrified to walk past.
02-26-2017 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by adios
Shaming !!!
Shaming !!!
Shaming !!!


One more time

S-H-A-M-I-N-G
You should be ashamed of the dumb things you believe.
02-26-2017 , 09:59 AM
The dude who took 3 days to read a description of supreme court cases correctly agrees with wil. Well then.
02-26-2017 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by prana
The world is scary to wil

See: the video he posted of people hanging outside a store in the middle of the day that us normal folk would supposedly be terrified to walk past.
There is a difference between being scared and being vigilent.
02-26-2017 , 10:00 AM
Show me a country where right-wing thought permeates any meaningful % of the population where they don't have massive problems? I mean, the >90% right-wing countries are total and complete hellholes, we all can agree to that. But even the ones that have as little as 5-10% are downright scary.
02-26-2017 , 10:03 AM
All of the posts about Islam from these ******s can be boiled down thus:

mong is frightened
wil is scared

In other words, typical Trumpkins.
02-26-2017 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Show me a country where right-wing thought permeates any meaningful % of the population where they don't have massive problems? I mean, the >90% right-wing countries are total and complete hellholes, we all can agree to that. But even the ones that have as little as 5-10% are downright scary.
Show me a country where right-wing thought permeates any meaningful % of the population where they have massive problems!
02-26-2017 , 10:09 AM
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The last few of these ******s' posts can be boiled down thus:

mong is frightened
wil is scared

In other words, typical Trumpkins.
It's really incredible when you think about the degree to which Trumpeters really are the things they accuse their opponents of being--cowards who are afraid of free speech and criticism and who need a safe space away from criticism because their ideas can't stand up to basic scrutiny.

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The Boston bombers are a great example of what I mean by back door trojan horse. They were radicalized by what they read on the internet. Why increase the chance of this happening during a time that ISIS has stated they want to exploit the refugee program to get at America. It takes just one major attack to inflict mass casualties and mass economic disaster. The left thinks we fear all immigrants. I just fear the one terrorist that slips through.
The refugee program would be about the worst way for someone to do that, and the vast majority of these attacks are by people born in the United States. There was a terrorist attack the other day, two Indian-American I.T. engineers were killed. You didn't hear about it, why? Because the guy who did it is white. These terrorist attacks from white men have been happening a lot lately--several cops were killed by these white, Christian terrorists right around the time of the election. But the media doesn't press this issue, because they want to get clicks from terrified white supremacist snowflakes such as yourself.

The truth is refugees are not the problem. Refugees and immigrants are LESS criminal and LESS violent than the natural born U.S. population, and that's a fact that we can back up any number of different ways.

Contrary to Trump’s Claims, Immigrants Are Less Likely to Commit Crimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/u...nts-crime.html
02-26-2017 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Show me a country where right-wing thought permeates any meaningful % of the population where they have massive problems!
North Korea
02-26-2017 , 10:15 AM
USA #1, ldo.
02-26-2017 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
It's really incredible when you think about the degree to which Trumpeters really are the things they accuse their opponents of being--cowards who are afraid of free speech and criticism and who need a safe space away from criticism because their ideas can't stand up to basic scrutiny.



The refugee program would be about the worst way for someone to do that, and the vast majority of these attacks are by people born in the United States. There was a terrorist attack the other day, two Indian-American I.T. engineers were killed. You didn't hear about it, why? Because the guy who did it is white. These terrorist attacks from white men have been happening a lot lately--several cops were killed by these white, Christian terrorists right around the time of the election. But the media doesn't press this issue, because they want to get clicks from terrified white supremacist snowflakes such as yourself.

The truth is refugees are not the problem. Refugees and immigrants are LESS criminal and LESS violent than the natural born U.S. population, and that's a fact that we can back up any number of different ways.

Contrary to Trumpís Claims, Immigrants Are Less Likely to Commit Crimes
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/u...nts-crime.html
Another white Christian terrorist attack that didn't get much media coverage, not in the U.S. but very close by, and very real. Much more real than the propaganda Fox News is tossing around about Sweden.

Shooting at Quebec mosque leaves at least six people dead; suspects arrested
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.2959168
02-26-2017 , 10:24 AM
My wife's church does a lot of functions with the local Islamic center and I'm way way way way way more concerned about a RWNJ showing up with a gun than I am about any of the Muslims. The leader of the Islamic center is my wife's cardiologist, FFS.
02-26-2017 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
All of the posts about Islam from these ******s can be boiled down thus:

mong is frightened
wil is scared

In other words, typical Trumpkins.
There is a difference between being frightened and being vigilent.
02-26-2017 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
There is a difference between being frightened and being vigilent.
If you want something real to be afraid of in the United States, look at domestic gun violence. This is actually something we can work on by implementing universal background checks and restricting extreme assault-style weapons on the market. The threat of ISIS is a manufactured fear designed to sell clicks and TV views and votes--it's not a real threat to you or your family or your country.
02-26-2017 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
If you want something real to be afraid of in the United States, look at domestic gun violence. This is actually something we can work on by implementing universal background checks and restricting extreme assault-style weapons on the market. The threat of ISIS is a manufactured fear designed to sell clicks and TV views and votes--it's not a real threat to you or your family or your country.
Unless you receive daily briefings about the threat of ISIS you should not be expressing your thoughts on the threat level.

Even if you slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
02-26-2017 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
My wife's church does a lot of functions with the local Islamic center and I'm way way way way way more concerned about a RWNJ showing up with a gun than I am about any of the Muslims. The leader of the Islamic center is my wife's cardiologist, FFS.
I think a physician shortage (esp. in rural America) could end up being one of the great, unintended, consequences of our current anti-immigrant sentiment and policies. Most of the MDs at our local hospital are foreign-born.
02-26-2017 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
My wife's church does a lot of functions with the local Islamic center and I'm way way way way way more concerned about a RWNJ showing up with a gun than I am about any of the Muslims. The leader of the Islamic center is my wife's cardiologist, FFS.
Ya, it makes sense that it is more likely that a rwnj will show up with a gun than a muslim with a gun at an Islamic center.
02-26-2017 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
If you want something real to be afraid of in the United States, look at domestic gun violence. This is actually something we can work on by implementing universal background checks and restricting extreme assault-style weapons on the market. The threat of ISIS is a manufactured fear designed to sell clicks and TV views and votes--it's not a real threat to you or your family or your country.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/02/us/ore...-gun-violence/

Wil comes from a relatively violent city and is still afraid of the terrorists. How one can look at numbers like those in the article above and still be scared of Islamic terorism fascinates me.
02-26-2017 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
There is a difference between being frightened and being vigilent.
Yes there is.


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Originally Posted by mongidig
I just fear the one terrorist that slips through.
And we can see which you are.

      
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