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I'm unsure if you're joking but I know many people feel this way. Do you really think 50 million (or whatever the number was) people who voted for him are truly irrational people?

No one could possibly believe that.

02-25-2017 , 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabby Hayes

You are telling me that there is not gonna be a problem with this idea? History itself teaches us that assimilating a foreign culture onto another is never without conflict.

Racists hate that stuff, so yeah there will be conflict. But if we just tell racists to **** off, things are fine.

02-25-2017 , 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabby Hayes

I get Trump's stance of slowing down the mass influx of allowing refugees into the country, because he understands if you just let a massive amount of people come in, like 100s of thousands, it's impossible to fight this ISIS threat. They will win purely on numbers. You can't screen that many people, we don't have the resources. Our airport security is a joke as it is and so is the border protocol, if you've ever traveled you know what I'm talking about. How could we possibly vet this new threat?

This post is nothing but ignorance. ISIS doesn't want us to accept refugees.

02-25-2017 , 01:31 PM

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Gabby, you might want to do basic research on the two years and amount of vetting (over 20 steps) it takes refugees to enter the USA. Terrorists aren't going to spend 20 months in a refugee camp.

You're adding at least 10, 000 people to be a deportation force, those resources could easily be used to vet and assimilate 10% as many refugees as illegals you seek to deport.

02-25-2017 , 01:37 PM

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Pretty impressive display of ignorance and lies from gabby.

02-25-2017 , 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 5ive

I don't know if you guys still play poker, even casually, but talking to random players online about trump and about math is goddamn amazing.

I ran into a dude today that didn't know what % means. I don't mean he didn't have an advanced grasp of percentages, I mean he didn't know that, say, a coinflip being 50/50 or 50% for one side to win, even meant.

Literally the two biggest fish I know are the only trump supporters. One once dropped 30 buying in one night in a home game

02-25-2017 , 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wil318466

In what way are Muslims not treated as equals in American society?

You think building a mosque goes over as easily as building a Catholic Church?

Want to look up the amount of violence in mosques vs Catholic Churches?

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02-25-2017 , 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wil318466

What does that even mean? We have an issue of global terrorism going on. People are inconvenienced. If X group were being scrutinized, than if you are part of X group you're going to be scrutinized. Sometimes it may seem unfair.

So?

You said "show me how they're not treated equally" and concede in your response that they're not treated equally. Thanks for agreeing with me!

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And what the hell does this mean either? Is this proving some sort of point?

Please, explain.

You claimed white liberals ignore the "actual feelings" of other groups like, in this example, Muslims, a group that largely voted the same as white liberals. It kinda seems like their "actual feelings" are that they agree with us. You, of course, do not have a coherent point or know what you're talking about.

02-25-2017 , 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

You said "show me how they're not treated equally" and concede in your response that they're not treated equally. Thanks for agreeing with me!

It seems you do not know what the word "seems" means.

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Sure I do, I almost always know what I'm talking about. You do not get to speak for me or how I "should" feel, and that applies to every group. I mean, you knew how the Hispanics felt about Trump in Florida, right?

Yeah, no.

02-25-2017 , 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

You think building a mosque goes over as easily as building a Catholic Church?

Want to look up the amount of violence in mosques vs Catholic Churches?

Like synagogues? There are ignorant people everywhere. Whats that have to do with my original point?

02-25-2017 , 02:19 PM

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- you conceded that they're scrutinized more heavily, the fact you think it's not unfair (which is bizarre, but whatever) is irrelevant
- people on 2p2 know, and posted many times, that Hispanics in Florida are more conservative because of the Cuban population

In short, everything you have posted on this (besides your personal beliefs like "racial profiling is totally fair" which I do believe is a true belief you hold) is wrong.

02-25-2017 , 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wil318466

Like synagogues? There are ignorant people everywhere. Whats that have to do with my original point?

So you either believe that synagogues have faced similar backlash to mosques (not true, although Jewish cemeteries have had issues of late) or think it's OK that "people are ignorant" when they burn down a place of worship?

Wil, if Muslims were burning down and plotting to blow up Catholic churches how would the media and Republicans in charge react vs how they have reacted to the recent surge of attacks on mosques?

02-25-2017 , 02:30 PM

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wil doesn't understand how "but extra scrutiny is fair" or "but those are just ignorant people" don't actually hurt the claim that Muslims aren't treated equally

02-25-2017 , 02:54 PM

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For pokerodox - remember how I said the Trump administration's attitude towards immigrants was going to result in them hiding out and avoiding engagement with the government?

Undocumented victims of domestic violence refuse to testify out of fear of deportation, after a woman was arrested and deported from a courthouse in El Paso where she sought a restraining order against her boyfriend.

This is healthy.

02-25-2017 , 03:12 PM

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The next Anne Frank is going to be a young Hispanic girl in the United States and that's cool.

02-25-2017 , 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabby Hayes

When did this place turn into a lib circle jerk? Is it just that the most recent generation of kids got indoctrinated through the liberal education system? It's like a cult. How do you not question everything in your teenage years/early twenties? That's what I remember in my youth. Never trust the system.

I see someone hasn't missed a Hannity episode recently.

Is this something you guys really believe? The "indoctrination" nonsense? Ever consider the fact that there's a connection between open-mindedness and people intelligent enough to pursue and attain levels of higher education?

02-25-2017 , 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabby Hayes

Did anyone watch Real Time with Bill Maher tonight? It's the only liberal propaganda show I tune into still. I know he's full of crap and his facts are faked or taken out of context so I don't put much stock into his talking points, but I will laugh once in a while because he did come from the old school of comedy when free speech was still allowed. So he is inherently funny when once in a while he doesn't pander to his audience. And he also at rare times denounces this new lib agenda of craziness and tries to persuade the libs to stop the insanity.

Anyway, my point I want to make is, he had a Muslim community leader Asra Bomani on the show tonight who actually got the respect to speak out because she is a declared Democrat and believes in the left ideologies. However, even she voted for Trump because she wasn't paid off or influenced to tow the party line. If the Left was really smart in picking a party leader, it would be her! She is a Muslim woman that identifies as a Democrat and speaks closer to the center and is very rational. She did get cut off when she would challenge the current liberal hypocrisy and suggest a better solution to get their message out. Someone like her won't sell her soul or beliefs for $$$ and therefore, never get a position of power where she can be controlled by the Dems.

Please explain which of Maher's facts are "fake".
Please explain how free speech is no longer allowed.
The woman you referenced offered zero rationale as to why she voted for Trump, by the way.

02-25-2017 , 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by markksman

Nobody who voted for trump is rational.

Why and how can be explained by investigating the information they have taken in and still take.

'The bandits have poisoned the information wells and are blaming the out-of town-folks, and, folks in the neighborhoods and folks on reservations, and kids who need to pee.'

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02-25-2017 , 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Okay, here's some legit fake news. Bill O'Reilly had this guest last night:

At 3:00 we get to hear from this guy about the immigration situation in Sweden:

A Swedish newspaper reports (in English) that the guy is a convicted criminal in the United States who does not live in Sweden and has no connection to Swedish security

I don't know who that guy is, but what he says seems to describe the situation in Sweden reosonably well. That is what matters. Guys, please ask me questions if anything is unclear, I will happily oblige.

02-25-2017 , 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

The next Anne Frank is going to be a young Hispanic girl in the United States and that's cool.

Did Anne Frank illegally sneak into her country?

Do you think having your identity stolen by an illegal who has no paper trail is cool?

02-25-2017 , 07:36 PM

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Did Anne Frank illegally sneak into her country?

Do you think having your identity stolen by an illegal who has no paper trail is cool?

What are you implying? Criminality.

Who's identity group name is 'illegal'? Where has being a human being been deemed illegal?

Have these alleged criminals been given due process and are you presuming innocence of such people before they face due process?

Oh, Did you know slavery used to be even more illegal than it is now?

Why do people need a paper trail? Is just being born grounds for suspicion of identity in the scenario?

02-25-2017 , 07:53 PM

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LOL this delicate little snowflake needs a safe space

02-25-2017 , 09:19 PM

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Yah if Wil really said that, he's kinda right that racism will always exist, but he's making the same mistake libs do in blaming white people for that. Every race and culture has racism, and whites get discriminated against too. Why is white discrimination never covered by the media?

Was this a reply to me? I'm honestly not ****ing with you, I srsly don't know.