You got to be joking. Snopes was recently exposed as a news source funded by the far left billionaires and proven to have no journalistic education or experience before they started the business.

Don't quote hack sites on me. I won't quote hack right wing sites on you. Just trying to have an intellectual debate on this forum stemming from our own education and experience out in the real world.

I'm not saying that this infiltration of refugees imposing their laws on us has happened. I'm saying it is something we need to be aware of that is happening across the world and you can't deny that.

Edit: I need to switch to iPad, my phone keeps auto texting my posts and having to edit the **** out of these posts. Uggh

It's weird that they need the funding of "the far left billionaires" to cite articles from actual journalists drawing the same conclusions about your clown argument, then.

Such bull**** arguments are not rooted in reality and deserve no respect.

You are cherry picking. Modern-day Muslims are similar and treated as such with Christians, Jews and other religions we protect under our Constitution. No one has a problem with Muslims. I don't even know what you are arguing? Are you saying we should let all refugees in regardless of their ideologies, fully knowing there is a culture out there that wants to kill us and our freedoms?

In which Gabby simultaneously argues that Muslims are treated as equals in modern-day America and then argues that Muslim refugees should be discriminated against.

Nice try. I'm argueing a huge difference between Muslim Americans and Muslim refugees coming from countries that hate us. You are naive if you don't acknowledge their is a different ideology among them.

I don't know if you guys still play poker, even casually, but talking to random players online about trump and about math is goddamn amazing.

I ran into a dude today that didn't know what % means. I don't mean he didn't have an advanced grasp of percentages, I mean he didn't know that, say, a coinflip being 50/50 or 50% for one side to win, even meant.

*cough*

This is wil espousing racism to the letter:


A quote from the new people's champion:

Yah if Wil really said that, he's kinda right that racism will always exist, but he's making the same mistake libs do in blaming white people for that. Every race and culture has racism, and whites get discriminated against too. Why is white discrimination never covered by the media?

I think Maher's show is one of the best on TV, to be honest. Yeah, he's slanted left, but it IS a comedy show. Let's face it, there's nothing funny about the right.


Asra apparently voted for Trump due to one issue - terrorism. I think it's interesting that white liberals ignore the actual feelings from the groups they desperately try to speak for.

This unholy alliance between feminists, white liberals, and Islam won't end well. Since each of these groups tends to turn on each other, I'm waiting for the Islamists and Feminists throw out the white male liberals and we'll see where they wind up.

In what way are Muslims not treated as equals in American society?

It's not going to last because it's based on a fake commonality. The only thing those.groups have in common is power and manipulating the votes. But, as we witnessed, it didn't work, people saw right through the bull****.

Wil, you are right about a short supply of right leaning comics. I listen to Nick Dipoalo. He's always been right leaning and as a stand up, really funny. He's best friends with Louis CK who has turned into a big lib lapdog, but still one of the great comedians of our time as well.

I gotta give Maher credit for paving the way for one of the best shows ever that got cancelled. His Politically Correct show gave Colin Quinn the opportunity for Comedy Central to air Tough Crowd, a better version of the Maher show.

Let's see some racism and Islamophobia all rolled up into one event: Muhammad Ali Jr. detained for several hours by customs agents at Florida airport

LOL. Who do you think the majority of Muslims voted for, wil?

What does that even mean? We have an issue of global terrorism going on. People are inconvenienced. If X group were being scrutinized, than if you are part of X group you're going to be scrutinized. Sometimes it may seem unfair.

So?

And what the hell does this mean either? Is this proving some sort of point?

Please, explain.

Wil, Goofy has a habit of cherry picking outlier incidents to prove his point that there is a war going on in America against Islams. But what he fails to provide is the incidents that happen for other immigrants crossing under the same scrutiny. I was crossing the border to go into Mexico a few weeks ago as an American. And guess what? I went through major scrutiny and questioning and proving my business for being in Mexico! Mexico! This outrage over vetting is fake and has been there when Obama was in office.

There is a huge Haitian refugee population in Mexico that migrated at the border in TJ last year. And Obama would not let them in the country. What does that tell you? Maybe he's scared there is a real terrorist threat sneaking into our borders?

I just don't understand the outrage. People get pulled out of airport security all the time. It happens. Some people are scrutinized more than others.

This is the current world we live in. When you are in an airport you can forget about how you feel about things, if they are going to pull you they are going to pull you, period. We all understand this, yet I should feel some sort of particular outrage because Ali Jr. got pulled out of line and questioned, even for an hour or two?

My best friend, a white guy, got pulled out of security, taken to the back, and had a body search. There was no reason for it. When I came back across the Canadian border I was surprised how many questions were fired at me coming back in. After a few minutes they let me through. My wife's cousin was asked to pull aside for "further questioning". He was born and raised in Philadelphia.

We are ALL inconvenienced here. Some more than others. I get pulled out of of line more than my wife. So what? I mean, if every person who wasn't Muslim was give the handwave and we just walked through security and they only pulled out Muslims, I could understand the outrage, but what exactly are we so overly concerned about in this particular instance? We can't tell what kind of exchange happened between Ali Jr. and the guard, and the guard may have been particularly stupid. It happens.

Hey, I agree with you on this. It sucks. But what's the longer term solution to not have to inconvenience us, and protect our safety at the same time?

Your rationalizing with someone who ****ing hates lines and waiting and suspicion more than anything. I hate it. So what do we do?

Well, I mean, on the surface it sounds like the guy is being singled out, yet all of us who have been in airports or crossed back and forth into America know that the entire process sucks, and it sucks bad. I could link unending YouTube videos showing only White folks being "harassed" by TSA, like when a white female has her genitals touched and she complains or the young white child being searched. Yet no one talks about harassment or racism, it's just "the TSA sucks". However, when someone of a different race gets inconveinenced all of a sudden it's racism?

In my previous example, I got over the US border relatively easily, yet my wife's cousin didn't. We are both Asian. Was there racism involved when my wife's cousin had to go through "further questioning"?

I'm trying to understand, especially in light of every single one of us knowing what it's like to travel after 9/11. I know an Irish guy who got on a domestic flight to attend a wedding in Florida. His visa was expired, they deported him on the spot. Do not pass go, do not collect 100 dollars. He called his friends and had them ship his stuff back to Ireland. US immigration and border guards and ICE just aren't messing around right now. We all understand this. Why should my heart bleed for Ali Jr?

I get Trump's stance of slowing down the mass influx of allowing refugees into the country, because he understands if you just let a massive amount of people come in, like 100s of thousands, it's impossible to fight this ISIS threat. They will win purely on numbers. You can't screen that many people, we don't have the resources. Our airport security is a joke as it is and so is the border protocol, if you've ever traveled you know what I'm talking about. How could we possibly vet this new threat?

Well, there's a huge difference between immigration and TSA. Once someone's in, they are in. The issue is whether they should be let in or not.

Ali JR is an American citizen, so it's different. I'm simply saying him being inconvenienced doesn't make me outraged at all.

Wil, you are Asian? That explains why you only cited examples of white people being racist. Can white people be racist? Of course. I have a lot of Asian friends, living in So Cal, where there is a huge Asian community now, and Asians can be just as vicious racially as Whites. But I don't care, because I'm not a sensitive lib that points the finger at that ****. I accept it and connect on a human level.

And not to single out whites and Asians, every culture I've witness racism. But mostly it's not even racism, it's stereotypical humor and coping mechanisms.

Yes, I am. It seems my viewpoint is extremely different on these topics because I am allowed to look at injustice as just injustice, regardless of race. White liberals aren't, so it warps their view on things.

My examples were harassment only directed AT whites, not whites being racist, just to be clear.

2+2 is extremely heavy in one demographic, white liberals. I wish we had other viewpoints, to be honest.

When did this place turn into a lib circle jerk? Is it just that the most recent generation of kids got indoctrinated through the liberal education system? It's like a cult. How do you not question everything in your teenage years/early twenties? That's what I remember in my youth. Never trust the system.

Nobody who voted for trump is rational.

You'll have to forgive Wil.