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08-15-2017 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
lol unreal.
Hey bigot, I know you're intolerant of other people's religions, but do you know what makes a Jewish person a Jewish person?

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/law-of-return

I'd tell you what religion I am and how many of its tenets I'm unaware of, but I'm afraid your bigotry and intolerance might cause you to commit a hate crime against me - better keep that close to the vest.
08-15-2017 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Iron Tamer
except you guys (you specifically) are the real racists, and you call people who don't see the world in terms of race racists


That's bull****. Your denial of race existing is childish willful blindness.
08-15-2017 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Hey bigot, I know you're intolerant of other people's religions, but do you know what makes a Jewish person a Jewish person?

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/law-of-return

I'd tell you what religion I am and how many of its tenets I'm unaware of, but I'm afraid your bigotry and intolerance might cause you to commit a hate crime against me - better keep that close to the vest.
Calling a racist racist is racist.
08-15-2017 , 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
It's obvious that the antifa/hippies/whatever are all being organized and deployed strategically.

Again, if you closely watch the videos the "fighting" isn't very serious at all. When people really want to hurt each other they don't send in the 180 lb girl with blue hair to swing, they send in the 25 year old dudes with clubs and start wrecking shop.

Neither side were all that violent. They were throwing stuff and calling each other names, some scuffles, but they weren't actually pulling out knives and bats and seriously trying to hurt each other.

The problem with this analysis is one guy got into his car and plowed into a group of people and killed someone, which changed the entire dynamic. So none of the above matters anymore. It's unfortunate to say this, but nothing could have worked out better for Antifa than to have that lunatic do exactly what he did.

It was a complete and total loss for the nationalist movement. Awful from top to bottom and could possibly be a very important event when this is all said and done and we look back.

And there it is, as if there were any doubt. Hey wil, you know why white supremacists/nationalists such as yourself are ****ing dumb as hell? Because they're all African Americans, and so are you! You're an African American. How? Humans originated in Africa, and you absolutely have African DNA, just like every other white supremacist/nationalist. Superior ****ing genes. Yeah, sure. Keep telling yourself that.
08-15-2017 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
And there it is, as if there were any doubt. Hey wil, you know why white supremacists/nationalists such as yourself are ****ing dumb as hell? Because they're all African Americans, and so are you! You're an African American. How? Humans originated in Africa, and you absolutely have African DNA, just like every other white supremacist/nationalist. Superior ****ing genes. Yeah, sure. Keep telling yourself that.
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08-15-2017 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
The only way these right wing *******s could ever be mad at a Nazi demonstration is if those Nazis turned out to be fake Nazis paid by liberals. Just amazing, amazing stuff coming to light in this thread.
This is such a telling observation.
08-15-2017 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
I stated that I thought American exceptionalism is a farce, and the fact that America was built on the exploitation of Native Americans, and then Africans.

You then misrepresented my statement, saying "America was not made rich on the backs of slaves" or something to that effect, but you're completely wrong.



http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-amer...s-cotton-king/




https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/04/b...f-slavery.html


You also stated that Southern States economically lagged behind Northern states simply because of slavery, but that too is wrong.



http://www.encyclopedia.com/humaniti...-slavery-south


If you're not accepting of these facts, then we're just going to have to say we "agree to disagree", but I'm not in agreement or disagreement with you at all. You're just flat out wrong on the facts.
these are not facts that prove anything.

Article 1 talks about the value of slaves, yeah slaves are expensive whats the point
Article 2 is an opinion piece in the nyt with the opinion of 1 professor, the quote shows that theres alot of money in slavery but just asserts that slavery made USA powerful without any evidence
Article 3 seems to be good for my prespective? I don't see how that article shows the south benefited from slavery economically.

posting broad articles is also not debating in good faith, it forces me to read and interpret what argument you are making. why don't you argue against the points I'm making and cite specific passages to help your case

why are countries that practiced slavery worse off historically than those that didn't

why was the North far Richer than the south
08-15-2017 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
That's bull****. Your denial of race existing is childish willful blindness.
race exists but the law should pretend it doesn't, thats the essence of liberalism

idk why you progressives moved from this idea that even people in the 1900s understood
08-15-2017 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass

Hey Bigot, you might want to look at the citations refuting this guy's work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_E._Baptist

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A number of economic historians have been critical of The Half Has Never Been Told.[10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][5][excessive citations]
I've never seen a link in Wikipedia claiming "excessive citations". Wow!

You can learn a lot from a Bigot.

08-15-2017 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
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Such a epic film. Gotta talk to the king in the john.
08-15-2017 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
I stated that I thought American exceptionalism is a farce, and the fact that America was built on the exploitation of Native Americans,



And in case people think they are not kick ass.

08-15-2017 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
That's what it looked like to me. Notice how there was a group of people chasing after the car before it plowed into the crowd. They all had bats. I think it's possible these people were attacking the driver at which point he lost it and did what he did. If this was premeditated I think there would have been far more people injured.

Liberal disclaimer...Mongidig highly condemns the actions of the car driver. He also codemns with the strongest meaning of the word any hate groups that committ acts of violence. Any misunderstanding of the words expressed by Mongidig are soley due to the close minded ignorance of less than bright people.

citation please
08-15-2017 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
When I first started posting here, I was ultimately banned for linking to Breitbart articles because I was asserting that they were not a credible source of information.
A timeout from this forum is distinct from a ban from 2+2. We never, as far as I know, banned anyone from 2+2.
08-15-2017 , 01:10 AM
ACEG got a temp ban for flagrantly ignoring the timeout received for the link

There was a philosophical debate over whether that meant she got the ban for the link or for ignoring the timeout rule. I say the later.
08-15-2017 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Iron Tamer
race exists but the law should pretend it doesn't, thats the essence of liberalism



idk why you progressives moved from this idea that even people in the 1900s understood


The law can deal with actual people, not what you or I demand ideologically. That's progress from imposed ideological limits.
08-15-2017 , 01:33 AM
Why should the law pretend any realities don't exist?
08-15-2017 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
You're a broke ass loser who can't afford 200 dollars after angle shooting someone. Trust me, I don't care what you have to say.
We all know how you love to bet here, wilch.

Would you like to bet on this, escrowed with someone we both trust?
08-15-2017 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Serious question : would you have gone to that rally?

I sure as **** wouldn't.
I think we can work out why someone who advocates punching small kids in the face and stop searching people about to enter toilets wouldn't want to join an antifa protest, you useless little prick.
08-15-2017 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
Why should the law pretend any realities don't exist?
because justice is blind

one nation, one people, one law. Treating people with different laws is the easiest way to create injustice and mess up your country
08-15-2017 , 02:32 AM
But the question isn't whether there should be different laws for different people.

The question is whether the singular law should be cognizant of peoples' differences.


Like mandating handicap ramps, for example.
08-15-2017 , 02:35 AM
how are handicap ramps relevant.

are women and minorities handicapped and inferior in your opinion?
08-15-2017 , 02:42 AM
its just not a relevant analogy, handicap parking/ramps stem from clearly identifiable problems that can be alleviated by those things w/o discriminating against any other group. This isn't the case when you try to tweak the law based on sex or race.
08-15-2017 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
But the question isn't whether there should be different laws for different people.

The question is whether the singular law should be cognizant of peoples' differences.


Like mandating handicap ramps, for example.
Careful.....remember that Google guy who wanted to be "cognizant of people's differences".

Can't we just treat people objectively? Why do we have to put our thumbs on scales? Egalitarianism is great - you should check it out.
08-15-2017 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Iron Tamer
how are handicap ramps relevant.

are women and minorities handicapped and inferior in your opinion?
are handicapped people inferior in yours?

the ramps are relevant because if the law did not see people for what they are, many people would be unfairly denied access to buildings


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08-15-2017 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
are handicapped people inferior in yours?

the ramps are relevant because if the law did not see people for what they are, many people would be unfairly denied access to buildings


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The point is, all handicapped people (with similar handicaps) are treated equally - all blind are treated the same, all those in wheelchairs are treated the same, etc... Regardless of their immutable characteristics of race and sex.

      
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