I believe jiggy is correct about the fentanyl is correct. From what I understand it's fentanyl that's doing this massive spike in deaths. The chart showing flat opioids doesn't mean dick.

13ball and disgunbguds comments were lol

Im super pro drugs and support legalization but fentanyl gives me doubts

it is by far the most dangerous drug on the market.

an effective dose and a lethal dose is almost immeasurable unless you are a trained chemist in a controlled setting

Why's it becoming so popular?

I'm not a drug guy at all. Can you explain the process in a nutshell?

Like, even if this was accurate(and it's not), you see how you effortless turning to Page 1 of "How to pwn the libtards about why poors dying is good" has absolutely nothing to do with my post or the argument Jiggy was making?

You can't argue that socialized health care simultaneously has terrible waiting lists for care AND that Obamacare made health care too accessible!

Wil,

How did Obama cause it?

Trumpkins,

Trump is getting ready to tell you that MS13 did it and we really really need a real tough war on drugs. Let's see if he gives a shoutout to Duterte.

I think you should rethink that "Poors dying" thing.

You don't understand the argument.

Jiggy argues that overdose deaths have increased because medicaid was expanded and more people got prescriptions for opiates because doctors are afraid to say no (because hospitals might lose funding.) If that were true, then you would see an increase in overdoses of commonly prescribed opioids. You don't.

The increases come partly from fentanyl. It makes zero sense that doctors would be reluctantly prescribing fentanyl to patients who they think might be drug-seeking. For one thing, most fentanyl prescriptions are for patches, which are less likely to lead to overdose and abuse. There are other forms of fentanyl, but:

If that weren't enough, there apparently hasn't been an increase in fentanyl prescriptions:
And if you look at the map included in that source there were 15 states listed with a statistically significant increase in synthetic opioid overdoses between 2014-2015. 8 of those states expanded Medicaid and 7 did not. There isn't even a correlation.

And finally, another large chunk of overdose deaths come from heroin. Doctors are not prescribing heroin.

Jiggy's claims are, as usual, utter nonsense completely unsupported by the facts.

If people are really curious about heroin and fentanyl and the opiod crisis you should read dreamland. Willy I know you don't read so this doesn't apply to you. It explains why a large part of the crisis started in Appalachia. It also explains the incentives for doctors to prescribe opiods(hint its patient satisfaction tests). Also explains the rise of pill mills and how the Mexican cartels took advantage of the addicted patients. Really a great book.

Trump straight up threatening North korea.

Countdown to Kim's assassination?

It's go time.

Double lol!

1) Buzzfeed. LOL!

2) The President cannot leak classified information. The President determines what information is classified.

Yeah and he is not a moran in those determinations. lol at your dim witted leader. Least he did not out any assets this time. Maybe...

Meh, presenting wil with any sort of logic is basically the equivalent of clowning on him. Especially if any variable in the problem being considered is non-binary.

The data is there, trust me guys. I'm not going to tell you why but I'm going to act like I have something to say here....rabble rabble....it's personal.....rabble rabble....meow chow.

Wow this is even more aggressively stupid than usual.

Christ. Stop quoting that idiot. I can't get away from him. He's going to follow me into the afterlife

What I'm saying is that there are tradeoffs in both systems. Obviously if you're a fat, lazy, sedentary slob you want universal health care because you're going to be needing it more than most and you can't afford to pay for it. If you are a hardworking, healthy person you don't want universal health care because you don't want to be taxed at 50%+ of your income and you don't want those taxes to go to fat, lazy, sedentary slobs' health needs.

The free market system has made a segment of the American health care system elite, meaning it is the best in the world, if you can afford it. Similar with education, and other sectors, if you can afford it you want to go to school in the US (MIT, Ivy League, Juliard, etc).

The fact you think that universal health care is best for everyone everywhere just shows what an ignorant dip**** you are. It's not. A lot of people from those systems choose to pay for procedures by coming the the US for a myriad of reasons.

Lol that's not necessarily true at all. You can develop an opiate addiction with weak prescriptions like percocet or tramadol and then graduate to black market fentanyl, oxycontin, and heroin. It's EASY to get those weak opioids via prescription. It's also EASIER to get fenatanyl and oxycontin on the black market than it is via prescription.

Fenatanyl is an extremely potent narcotic pain medication and is not prescribed unless the patient is in extreme chronic pain (think back surgery). Other, lower potency opioids are prescribed for less severe pain.


I know for a fact it's easier to obtain narcotic pain medication in the US than in other countries. I don't know about individual states.

its cheap essentially. Its about as expensive/gram as heroin at 50-100 times the strength.

https://www.statnews.com/2016/09/29/...o-fatal-doses/

this shows a comparison of their relatively strength

drug dealer cut fen into heroin so they can cut their bot line drastically while keeping the same quality of product. I imagine some hardcore iv heroin users intentionally do it once their tolerance builds up. Once you are at that point you don't care how dangerous fen is.

fen should only be used in acute circumstances like after a car crash, the substance is extremely dangerous.

The Russian government used a weaker aerosol version of fen to knock out the terrorists in the 2002 moscow theater siege. Medics were immediately sent in to revive innocent civilians but 1/2 of them died.

Idk how prescribes fen in the USA but it should not be done in any form.

I'm pretty much dead set against it tbh but you have an argument in favor I'm all ears

Cop touched fentanyl with bare hand, required four doses of Narcan to be revived:
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ame...g-call-n759741

Does he plan on rescinding EO 12036?

And not just that; he took DisGunBGud's story of basically saying he had a friend who either struggled with or succumbed to opioid abuse, and used THAT as a launch pad to go with what you just posted.


p.s. Lol the Musk of racism. Jiggly is gonna have electric-powered racism by 2020 and send racism to Mars by 2030.

go make 7even you cuck

that account has run its course