By the way, with all this mishandling of secure information going around, and worries in the intelligence community that Russia has compromised the Trump administration, it's worth going back to this story from a couple weeks ago when alleged U.S. spies were arrested in Russia and charged with treason.

If they are in fact our spies, that means Trump can't keep our assets overseas safe, and the question becomes: was it sheer incompetence that led to these spies getting caught, or did Trump actively hand over people serving our country to get executed in order to secure something in return?

LMAO, The president called it a muslim ban, Spicer called it a muslim ban, Giuliani called it a muslim ban, good enough for me.

Weird, so Muslims from countries beside the 7 chosen could still travel to the US?

Yep, but what does that have to do with anything? Don't reply with some bull**** disingenuous post that goes like this:

Well if he's letting Muslims in (from other countries) then it's not a Muslim ban.

He only picked those 7 countries because Obama had already instituted a different vetting process on those countries and Trump (er, I mean Bannon) figured he could push it through while riding on the back of Obama's work.

If he's banning people from that country (majority Muslim) except for religious minorities (i.e. Christians) then it's a Muslim ban.

You don't have the smarts of any court in this land and there are multiple that have decided this EO was unconstitutional. Good enough for me.

Actually it is about TRUMP being opposed to open borders while the left is a proponent of open borders. HRC was open about her support for open borders.

Particularly if it affected Muslims to go on with his fear mongering.

The arrests occured in December under Obama's watch.

I have to admit there is a part of me that cheers on Trump's boldface lying, at least as I see it sending democrats and the corporate media into paroxysms. Tremendous lying is what those in power have done for years and years, only with more nuance. Trump's lies are a furthering of the breakdown in communication which the Obama administration has been slaving away at for the better part of a decade, corporate media in tow. Now they have to sit back and watch the next crooked crew just get savage with it, just not even pretend to care.

This is a bit misleading. Trump was briefed in a secure room at Mar A Lago before and after dinner. Paul Ryan commented that there was no classified information in guest view. He also said all guests were vetted.

The use of cell phones if true is not good.

Overall, I suspect this is a non story. Trump has to be more careful about providing bad optics allowing the rats to create distractive stories.

Yes, everything we've heard so far points to this being nothing...

So turns out Republicans voted for a traitor....... and he didn't even really try to hid it. Was pretty blatant about it during the campaign actually. Turns out Rs will sell out their country for some tax cuts and "liberal tears." What's the over/under for number of convictions for treason that we get from this administration? Do Trump slappies like mongidig get a treason participation trophy?

Yes they would.

Remember Trump saying Kushner will make peace in the Middle East and he would love to be known as the guy who made that happen? "I would love to be the one who made peace with Israel and the Palestinians, that would be such a great achievement" he said.

Well, how's that going?

Trump "can live with" a one-state or two-state solution, breaking from decades of foreign policy. The NYT notes the problem with this:

But don't worry, Trump will make a great deal, just the best deal:

This from the guy who had a secret plan for defeating ISIS he couldn't tell us about during the campaign and apparently still can't tell us now that he's president.

Trump's travel ban hurting U.S. tourism industry

I thought Trump was supposed to be good for business?

What a remarkable time to be alive, where you can watch the president become unhinged in real time:





Make up your mind, Donald, is it fake or is it illegal? It can't be both!

Actually, it can be both fake and illegal (different items/sentences being fake or illegal), but I, sadly, haven't had time lately to keep up. Fake never means 100% fake.

I actually do have a general comment on the idea of "fake news." The reality is that most news outlets are mostly accurate in their facts. The question is just what percent error we are willing to live with.

Also, people often don't separate news from opinion. To generalize, news articles are 20-80% fact, and the remainder opinion. We need to be clear when evaluating a source or article about what is fact and what is opinion. People often criticize something as fake new when they don't agree with the source's conclusions (clearly opinion), but the underlying facts are just fine.

I'm developing a view that we all need to stop accusing news sources of being fake news based on their biased conclusions. I don't think the NYT is fake, just biased. FoxNews is also not fake, just biased. Breitbart is probably the same, though I haven't read much of it yet. I'm starting. Found it due to this web site. Thanks.

Wait, didn't Trump fire Flynn because Trump couldn't trust him anymore?

Now it's the media's fault??????

Amazing.

Fox News would have to actually do reporting in order to be fake. If you check out their website at the moment you might not have any clue that Michael Flynn is a person who exists and is in the news right now.

Seems like enough dominoes are starting to fall around Puzder (the Labor nominee who wants to kill minimum wage) that he's probably not going to get confirmed.

I don't trust any of them. As long as you realize they are all biased to some degree then you can be more critical of what they say and form your own opinions.

No, pokerodox has the correct amount of skepticism. Facts and opinions are different and unless you have a good reason to be critical of the facts presented in an article (pervasive dishonesty over time could be a potential such reason, see Breitbart's presentation of the facts here), you're simply letting your own biases reinforce everything you already believe as you selectively discard the facts you mistrust because you don't like them.

You're certainly welcome to form different opinions from the same set of facts, but reacting to every anti-Trump article with "fake news" because you've built your own internal echo chamber where only the facts you like make it out alive just turns you into the utter Trump stooge we all know you as.

I wasn't familiar with him so I looked him up and couldn't find anyone saying he wanted to kill MW. One source quoted him as saying he's okay with increasing MW to $9, but was opposed to raising it $15.

I was kinda disappointed - I was hoping to find a politician who shared my view of MW and my want to get rid of it.

I read that Wikipedia article on Sherrod. Interesting.

I would like to know what was actually missing from the video that Breitbart published. Sounds dishonest. Though I'm not sure.

This raises a third kind of questionable journalism. Hiding/ignoring something. I find myself asking what am I not hearing all the time when reading MSM.

I was probably speaking too broadly - he opposes minimum wage in general but has not outlined specific proposals to kill it.

According to Fox News and the rest of the interwebz, he's unable to survive the spotlight and is going to withdraw.

Trump nominating THE BEST cabinet.