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07-21-2017 , 10:01 PM

#10151

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DRUMPF tag teaming with daddy Putin to turn on Beauregard. Amazing

07-21-2017 , 10:02 PM

#10152

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You mean the Cable News Network doesn't publish news? You might want to tell them that.

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I don't get it, are you saying CNN is a newspaper? Is this supposed to refute me in any way?

07-21-2017 , 10:19 PM

#10153

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

I don't get it, are you saying CNN is a newspaper? Is this supposed to refute me in any way?

Do you have to be a newspaper to publish news? Go drunk Goofy, you're home. The final table is on - enjoy some poker.

07-21-2017 , 10:24 PM

#10154

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Originally Posted by JiggyMac

Do you have to be a newspaper to publish news?

You have to be a newspaper to fit into the context of the claim I made. Let me remind you again:

Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Why? This - taking aim at the Attorney General of the United States and basically saying he perjured himself (or more specifically, that according to what the Russian ambassador to the US told his bosses, Sessions perjured himself) - strikes me as the type of story that is exceptionally dangerous for a paper to run with if they aren't very sure about its credibility.

There is a reason I said "paper" and not "news outlet". CNN is a ****ty television channel with an accompanying website whose #1 goal is driving ratings and #2 goal is reporting news. Even ignoring the other issue I highlighted wherein Anthony Scaramucci is a nobody and Jefferson Sessions is the opposite of that, what the **** does CNN have to do with what I said?

You are trying way too hard, and additionally have yet to give a credible reason why you think the WaPo story is "bull**** on the surface".

07-21-2017 , 10:29 PM

#10155

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

You have to be a newspaper to fit into the context of the claim I made. Let me remind you again:

There is a reason I said "paper" and not "news outlet". CNN is a ****ty television channel with an accompanying website whose #1 goal is driving ratings and #2 goal is reporting news. Even ignoring the other issue I highlighted wherein Anthony Scaramucci is a nobody and Jefferson Sessions is the opposite of that, what the **** does CNN have to do with what I said?

You are trying way too hard.

Ok - how about the New York "we are recommitting ourselves to journalism" Times. WaPo has also been pretty shady with their anonymous sources reporting.

How about that fake news article on Russia hacking the power grid:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevle.../#2b8f07c17ad5

Or that time they couldn't even accurately report on Sean Spicer's location - LOL!:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/wapo-...to-the-bushes/

Do you think it would exceptionally dangerous to run a story like that if they aren't absolutely sure of its credibility? What planet are you living on?

The media is biased - and it's pretty obvious.

07-21-2017 , 10:33 PM

#10156

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Ok - how about the New York "we are recommitting ourselves to journalism" Times.

lol? They do great work there, your argument here is...a marketing tagline? Wow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JiggyMac

WaPo has also been pretty shady with their anonymous sources reporting.

How about that fake news article on Russia hacking the power grid:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevle.../#2b8f07c17ad5

Do you think it would exceptionally dangerous to run a story like that if they aren't absolutely sure of its credibility?

No; few people gave a **** about that story before its retraction. The Attorney General of the United States, though? That is some serious ****.

...and you have still not given a reason why the story is "bull**** on the surface". You're even speculating that Trump might have leaked it himself, which would make it the opposite of bull****!!

07-21-2017 , 10:37 PM

#10157

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

lol? They do great work there, your argument here is...a marketing tagline? Wow.

No; few people gave a **** about that story before its retraction. The Attorney General of the United States, though? That is some serious ****.

...and you have still not given a reason why the story is "bull**** on the surface". You're even speculating that Trump might have leaked it himself, which would make it the opposite of bull****!!

I excerpted why the article might be bull****. Read the whole article.

Yeah, the NYT does fine work, if you need birdcage lining.

07-21-2017 , 10:40 PM

#10158

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Originally Posted by JiggyMac

I excerpted why the article might be bull****. Read the whole article.

Yeah, the NYT does fine work, if you need birdcage lining.

Funny thing though, DRUMPF goes to them when he wants to give an incomprehensible interview that shows just how incompetent he is.

07-21-2017 , 10:40 PM

#10159

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"The best government is that which governs least."

You a big Thoreau fan?

07-21-2017 , 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JiggyMac

I excerpted why the article might be bull****. Read the whole article.

lol, let me remind you, before you even posted that excerpt, I posted:

Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

taking aim at the Attorney General of the United States and basically saying he perjured himself (or more specifically, that according to what the Russian ambassador to the US told his bosses, Sessions perjured himself)

I already said that it's based on the word of Kislyak! And it's pretty odd to be saying "the WaPo story is bull****" based on information given to you in the WaPo article! Kinda seems like they're doing great reporting by covering those bases and all possible angles?

07-21-2017 , 10:45 PM

#10161

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Originally Posted by microbet

You a big Thoreau fan?

Not particularly. Always attributed that quote to a Founding Father, but found out today it was the motto of "The United States Magazine and Democratic Review".

07-21-2017 , 10:46 PM

#10162

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Originally Posted by Bdidd

Funny thing though, DRUMPF goes to them when he wants to give an incomprehensible interview that shows just how incompetent he is.

Trump has never found a microphone he didn't like.

07-21-2017 , 10:48 PM

#10163

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

lol, let me remind you, before you even posted that excerpt, I posted:

I already said that it's based on the word of Kislyak! And it's pretty odd to be saying "the WaPo story is bull****" based on information given to you in the WaPo article! Kinda seems like they're doing great reporting by covering those bases and all possible angles?

The conclusions WaPo wants you to draw are kind of bull**** base on the information WaPo is providing! That's the point. Seems we agree.

07-21-2017 , 10:55 PM

#10164

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The conclusions WaPo wants you to draw...

lol

07-21-2017 , 11:42 PM

#10165

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07-22-2017 , 12:07 AM

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Maybe Jiggy needs someone in the government of Israel to explain the pretty significant difference there

07-22-2017 , 12:12 AM

#10167

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Originally Posted by JiggyMac

That is ironic isn't. The Left is wishing for Romney now, aren't they? Romney gets elected, Trump never runs. But don't suggest the ****ty policies of the Left gave us Trump....no....

The left generally wouldn't agree to with what I said, and even if they did that wouldn't constitute irony. And besides the point - obamas approval ratings were very average by historic standards when he left office so it's hard to make a case that he's responsible for trumps success. Why be dishonest? The way you see him is not the way the american public sees him. Donny narrowly eked out a win because hillary was crap.

07-22-2017 , 12:17 AM

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Not particularly. Always attributed that quote to a Founding Father, but found out today it was the motto of "The United States Magazine and Democratic Review".

Yes, but popularized by Thoreau's Civil Disobedience. This is the first paragraph.

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I heartily accept the motto, "That government is best which governs least"; and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe- "That government is best which governs not at all"; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have. Government is at best but an expedient; but most governments are usually, and all governments are sometimes, inexpedient. The objections which have been brought against a standing army, and they are many and weighty, and deserve to prevail, may also at last be brought against a standing government. The standing army is only an arm of the standing government. The government itself, which is only the mode which the people have chosen to execute their will, is equally liable to be abused and perverted before the people can act through it. Witness the present Mexican war, the work of comparatively a few individuals using the standing government as their tool; for, in the outset, the people would not have consented to this measure.

07-22-2017 , 12:22 AM

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The right professes to be anti-government, but astoundingly they mean they just want the government to be police, military and prison. That doesn't seem like governing the least to me.

07-22-2017 , 12:25 AM

#10170

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Originally Posted by microbet

The right professes to be anti-government, but astoundingly they mean they just want the government to be police, military and prison. That doesn't seem like governing the least to me.

I'm pretty sure it was the Clintons who provided over the increased prison population of "super predators".

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ican-youth-su/

07-22-2017 , 12:28 AM

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I'm pretty sure it was the Clintons who provided over the increased prison population of "super predators".

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ican-youth-su/

I don't like Clinton.

07-22-2017 , 12:40 AM

#10172

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Maybe Jiggy needs someone in the government of Israel to explain the pretty significant difference there

And i just pointed that out not to far back...

07-22-2017 , 12:45 AM

#10173

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Maybe Jiggy needs someone in the government of Israel to explain the pretty significant difference there

Yes, tell me how the government of Israel appreciated the Obama administration - I'm dying to hear this.

07-22-2017 , 12:45 AM

#10174

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Originally Posted by microbet

I don't like Clinton.

Seems like for the reasons you cited.

07-22-2017 , 01:02 AM

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Yes, tell me how the government of Israel appreciated the Obama administration - I'm dying to hear this.

Things might have been different if a right wing nut job hadn't murdered the last Israeli leader who liked peace better than war.

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