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Old 07-21-2017, 08:36 PM   #10126
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Hahahaha, you don't think "looking into people getting cancer" and/or trying to stop it is a worthwhile thing for government to do??? WOW!
If just one death....

Combustion engines cause cancer too. And they extend our lifespans. Trade-offs in everything.
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:37 PM   #10127
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Another conspirator refuses to testify:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fu...rticle/2629396

Fusion GPS co-founder will not testify to Senate Intelligence Committee

What have you got to hide, **** face?
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:38 PM   #10128
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By the way, you guys, you remember how excited Jiggy was that Manafort et al were going to publicly testify to the Senate next week?

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Looks like Manafort and Kushner are set to testify to the Senate next week:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...committee.html

Will they meet with lawmakers before Susan Rice? My bet is on the more transparent ones.
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Do you also give Manafort credit for his willingness to testify at the Senate next week?
Not like that evil ***** Susan Rice, who did so in private!

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You mean the woman who still refuses to testify before Congress?

My guys are going to testify before your guys.
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Oh, I see she met "privately" with Senators. Just like that slime Podesta.

Open session *****! Who did you leak to? Or was it just a video?
Manafort and Trump Jr. will be interviewed privately, won't publicly testify

I'm sure Jiggy is very upset that they're going to be doing the same thing as "that slime Podesta" and Crooked Susan Rice, right?? And he lost his bet about who talks to them first! LMAO
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:41 PM   #10129
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By the way, you guys, you remember how excited Jiggy was that Manafort et al were going to publicly testify to the Senate next week?





Not like that evil ***** Susan Rice, who did so in private!





Manafort and Trump Jr. will be interviewed privately, won't publicly testify

I'm sure Jiggy is very upset that they're going to be doing the same thing as "that slime Podesta" and Crooked Susan Rice, right?? And he lost his bet about who talks to them first! LMAO
I am shocked that Susan Rice didn't back out a second time. Who knew? *shrugs*

I hope her testimony is given the same courtesy as she gave Flynn's conversations.
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:46 PM   #10130
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I hope her testimony is given the same courtesy as she gave Flynn's conversations.
MUH UNMASKING!

Do you give Susan Rice credit for being as forthcoming as Paul Manafort and Donald Trump Jr. with the Senate?
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:47 PM   #10131
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Sessions discussed Trump-campaign-related matters with Russian ambassador, U.S. intelligence intercepts show

The accounts from Sergey Kislyak to his superiors, intercepted by U.S. spy agencies, show that discussions in April and July of 2016 with Jeff Sessions included policy issues important to Moscow, contradicting public assertions by the attorney general. One U.S. official said that Sessions has provided “misleading” statements that are “contradicted by other evidence.” A former official said that the intelligence indicates that Sessions and Kislyak had “substantive” discussions on matters including Trump’s positions on Russia-related issues and prospects for U.S.-Russia relations in a Trump administration.
 
Old 07-21-2017, 08:48 PM   #10132
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MUH UNMASKING!

Do you give Susan Rice credit for being as forthcoming as Paul Manafort and Donald Trump Jr. with the Senate?
Sure I do. Glad she did.

As a government official, she probably should have testified in public, like Comey did.
And I don't necessarily trust the Senators to ask the questions that should be asked.

But she still gets credit for doing it, even though she probably didn't have much of a choice.
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:56 PM   #10133
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Sure I do. Glad she did.

As a government official, she probably should have testified in public, like Comey did.
Same goes for Jared Kushner, right?
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:59 PM   #10134
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Same goes for Jared Kushner, right?
Was he a government employee when he took that meeting with Veselnitskaya?
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:59 PM   #10135
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Sessions discussed Trump-campaign-related matters with Russian ambassador, U.S. intelligence intercepts show

The accounts from Sergey Kislyak to his superiors, intercepted by U.S. spy agencies, show that discussions in April and July of 2016 with Jeff Sessions included policy issues important to Moscow, contradicting public assertions by the attorney general. One U.S. official said that Sessions has provided “misleading” statements that are “contradicted by other evidence.” A former official said that the intelligence indicates that Sessions and Kislyak had “substantive” discussions on matters including Trump’s positions on Russia-related issues and prospects for U.S.-Russia relations in a Trump administration.
Would like to state in advance that I did have this out in mind when I posted that I didn't expect Sessions to be gone anytime soon:

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Ok, we'll see if your prediction about Twitter leading him to fire Jeff Sessions comes to pass (my guess is that without Sessions landing in any legal trouble himself, never happening)
Time to find out how seriously the GOP takes perjury by one of their own! RIP Jefferson, we hardly knew ye
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:03 PM   #10136
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Was he a government employee when he took that meeting with Veselnitskaya?
Was it harvest moon? Wait... who cares?!
 
Old 07-21-2017, 09:06 PM   #10137
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Was he a government employee when he took that meeting with Veselnitskaya?
Would his testimony be exclusively about this meeting? The investigation as a whole is an ongoing thing covering a large period of time including when he's been a government official.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:08 PM   #10138
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Would his testimony be exclusively about this meeting? The investigation as a whole is an ongoing thing covering a large period of time including when he's been a government official.
I don't know what he's accused of doing in violating his duty to the American people as our employee. Is there something beyond election collusion?
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:09 PM   #10139
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Time to find out how seriously the GOP takes perjury by one of their own! RIP Jefferson, we hardly knew ye
The WaPo story seems to be bull**** on the surface. We shall see - might want to reserve reservations here.

Trump did fire Flynn for lying about Russian communication though...so, we shall see.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:11 PM   #10140
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I don't know what he's accused of doing in violating his duty to the American people as our employee. Is there something beyond election collusion?
Part of election collusion is any possible coverup attempts by the Trump team, both before and after inauguration.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:11 PM   #10141
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I don't know what he's accused of doing in violating his duty to the American people as our employee. Is there something beyond election collusion?
SF86: Nat Sec questionnaire:

The U.S. Criminal Code (title 18, section 1001) provides that knowingly
falsifying or concealing a material fact is a felony which may result in fines
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:13 PM   #10142
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Part of election collusion is any possible coverup attempts by the Trump team, both before and after inauguration.
Not going to indulge in scope creep here. If there was no collusion, then no need to worry about a cover-up. Let's stay focused.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:13 PM   #10143
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It's quite amusing, btw, to watch Jiggy refine his definition on the fly of who needs to testify publicly and who doesn't, based purely on which things define Susan Rice but not Jared Kushner. Any moment now "drawing a salary" is going to become a very important requirement.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:22 PM   #10144
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It's quite amusing, btw, to watch Jiggy refine his definition on the fly of who needs to testify publicly and who doesn't, based purely on which things define Susan Rice but not Jared Kushner. Any moment now "drawing a salary" is going to become a very important requirement.
I think there are differently levels here.

Susan Rice worked for the American People.

Comey did, Klapper did, Sally Yates did.

Remember, Trump and Associates are under investigation - it's up to the government to prove ITS case.

Why did she agree to publicly testify and then back out? And why did she switch chambers?
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:25 PM   #10145
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The WaPo story seems to be bull**** on the surface.
Why? This - taking aim at the Attorney General of the United States and basically saying he perjured himself (or more specifically, that according to what the Russian ambassador to the US told his bosses, Sessions perjured himself) - strikes me as the type of story that is exceptionally dangerous for a paper to run with if they aren't very sure about its credibility.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:27 PM   #10146
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I think there are differently levels here.

Susan Rice worked for the American People.

Comey did, Klapper did, Sally Yates did.
Kushner doesn't?

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Remember, Trump and Associates are under investigation - it's up to the government to prove ITS case.
Is Rice under investigation? I thought she did the unmasking and the leaks and the Benghazi and stuff, does the government not have to prove their case against her?

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Why did she agree to publicly testify and then back out?
idk, why did the Trump trio that was supposed to testify next week do the same?

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And why did she switch chambers?
idk, does the chamber particularly matter?
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:31 PM   #10147
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Why? This - taking aim at the Attorney General of the United States and basically saying he perjured himself (or more specifically, that according to what the Russian ambassador to the US told his bosses, Sessions perjured himself) - strikes me as the type of story that is exceptionally dangerous for a paper to run with if they aren't very sure about its credibility.
You mean like that time CNN had 3 staffers resign because they ran a false story about Trump's new communication director:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/26/medi...cle/index.html

Yeah, these papers are always on the straight and narrow with these kinds of stories.

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Officials emphasized that the information contradicting Sessions comes from U.S. intelligence on Kislyak’s communications with the Kremlin, and acknowledged that the Russian ambassador could have mischaracterized or exaggerated the nature of his interactions.

“Obviously I cannot comment on the reliability of what anonymous sources describe in a wholly uncorroborated intelligence intercept that the Washington Post has not seen and that has not been provided to me,” said Sarah Isgur Flores, a Justice Department spokeswoman in a statement. She reiterated that Sessions did not discuss interference in the election.

Russian and other foreign diplomats in Washington and elsewhere have been known, at times, to report false or misleading information to bolster their standing with their superiors or to confuse U.S. intelligence agencies.
Once again though - another leak. Which, unless it's Trump (who has the authority to declassify information), would be illegal. There thoughts he might have done it to give cover to getting rid of Sessions, except he'd have a hard time getting an AG confirmed while the Mueller investigation is going on. Interesting times.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:33 PM   #10148
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Kushner doesn't?



Is Rice under investigation? I thought she did the unmasking and the leaks and the Benghazi and stuff, does the government not have to prove their case against her?
She was our employee at the time. Kushner was not.


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idk, why did the Trump trio that was supposed to testify next week do the same?
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idk, does the chamber particularly matter?
Well, I'd like to see Trey Gowdy ripping into her. I'd prefer her testimony be public. Trump trio as well, but definitely her.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:50 PM   #10149
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taking aim at the Attorney General of the United States and basically saying he perjured himself
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You mean like that time CNN had 3 staffers resign because they ran a false story about Trump's new communication director
Hahahahaha, oh sweet naive Jiggy, no. Also you seem to be very confused about the nature of CNN, it is not a newspaper!
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:59 PM   #10150
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Hahahahaha, oh sweet naive Jiggy, no. Also you seem to be very confused about the nature of CNN, it is not a newspaper!


You mean the Cable News Network doesn't publish news? You might want to tell them that.

How about when the New York Times had to "recommit themselves to journalism"?
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