All of this is disingenous. Please give specific examples of how Trump has

1. Spread fear and hate
2. Supported fascism

The propaganda thing is a huge laugh. Besides Fox, the entirety of American propaganda (media) has been squarely against Trump since day 1. Also, America isn't a democracy. It's a republic of laws.

You should actually read some history before you post in these forums, because posting one article every now and then is lol for most of us. Is that how you get the entirety of your information?

National Socialist German Workers Party

Read it again until it sinks in, and then keep digging until you find out what the word socialist means and why Hitler joined a party with that in the name.

I don't think he was really saying that and your post is pretty unfair. History is a complex thing, and it's a fact that some American big business was behind Hitler, including Prescott Bush etc.

Ya at the time though tarriffs and industry protection were the status quo for every country, including the United States. Those industries you speak of aren't failing, they're just failing in the United States because it's too expensive to do business there.

If you think the leader of the US, wanting to make businesses do better in the US, makes that leader Hitler then I really don't know what to say. Isn't that what leaders of countries are supposed to do?

Maybe take some time out from posting pictures of homeless black people who you assume are criminals (why would you assume that?), to do a cursory amount of reading yourself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German Workers Party

Good job commies!

comparing hitler to the thing you argue against just the way you show you lost the argument

corollary of godwins law

No one compared him to Hitler. They said he was an authoritarian.

Whoops fat Hitler made it in there.

Godwin's law only applies to liberals, everyone knows that

Regime of lackadaisical scapegoating.

Here's a good article from Mises institute that goes a little beyond the general information of Wikipedia which will probably be thrown out without being read because Austrian economists are evil racist Hitler worshippers but nonetheless

https://mises.org/library/why-nazism...m-totalitarian

And what makes him authoritarian? His strong language? What evidence do you actually have of this?

Just the fact he's going through the courts and Congress to get his bills passed makes your claim nonsense.

Im not into convincing you. Maybe someone else will take up your offer.

JFC, both clintons grew up as middle class at best, and got ahead solely due to their own education. to knock them for paying off debt while one of them was trying to stay in politics and the other just left politics after spending most savings on legal defense since at least the late 80's. for crying out loud, clinton spoke at my convocation in 2001, and was probably paid the same amount as janet reno and christopher reeves. whoopty freaking doo, what a privileged *****. talk to me when you are on foodstamps amirite?

to continue to throw shade for speaking fees is a form of whattaboutism. accusations about the dnc are pretty much always what the right are already doing, including the nomination and election of the most corrupt priveleged anti intellectual pro war baby as president who may have also accepted help from a hostile dictator. its not hard to remember this exact trump campaign language, which is now revealed about the trump administration itself.

they are trying to run out the news cycle clock because they are better at yelling louder, but it's not difficult to see how fake news is probably a highly automated greater narrative algorithm, repackaging stories with new names and details and self references, even able to grab as new input stuff like crazy ramblings of a foxnews viewing idiot off twitter/Reddit/message board. as much as I'd like to believe we are dealing with humans, most of the time we are arguing with bad Eliza implementations. Yes it's infuriating to you and doesn't make you like the gop any more, but they've actually succeeded in getting you to repeat a lie about the dnc establishment to yourself over and over.

I think most likely you don't see beyond your own nose and use words like fascism and authoritarian as trigger words rather than actually analyzing things to find the truth. It's a rather careless and lazy way to use your brain.

The sentiment is idealistic but let's think rationally. A representative of a group may not be the best person to be the best advocate or legislator for that group. And to represent the downtrotten with one of their own, you are kinda limited to choosing someone who didn't have enough resources to get out of the poverty cycle, which is nearly impossible by the way. I think it's more appropriate to choose and vote for champions for your group wherever you find them, rather than e.g. calling someone too rich to be talking about income inequality.

sylar,

Hillary's childhood is better described as "middle class at worst" than as best, but she didn't grow up rich. I think upper middle class is the right description. Bill grew up poor(ish).

When the person who repealed Glass-Steagall got over $100 million in speaking fees, I think it's worth a little shade.

I think i never called him either. Cite?

Kind of lazy strawman you are cooking up there.

I know we probably disagree on a lot of financial issues. I don't think the repeal was good, but it was mostly consensus at the time. Bill didn't all of a sudden make a giant mistake all by himself. Who knows, maybe the actual downfall of a republic is when glass-steagal is repealed together with citizens united, and it would have been manageable without republicans continuing to be dicks after the nineties. Regardless the democrats realized some of their mistakes and are now trying to rectify it. That's probably as close an ally as I can name.

Do Not take someone else's word about fascism and authoritarianism, see and decide for yourself using resources such as...


https://public.tableau.com/profile/a...skindDashboard

Id say he is more of an kleptocrat.

I'm probably not as extreme as I seem. If you don't think the repeal was good I'm not sure we're so far apart other than I may have less tolerance for a bunch of back-slapping lawyers and MBAs in their suits all agreeing that things that will make them rich are also saving the world.

I agree, but give him a chance.

Yes, the labor is too expensive. For the same reason that companies don't open up plants to manufacture textiles in the middle of Manhattan. Do you want to segregate states and cities too to inflate the wages for people in the wealthier regions?

No, that's what leaders of centrally planned economies do.

The industry leave the country period. Giant corporations who pay Philippine workers 12 cents an hour can make more money. The rich get richer and the middle class shrinks because corrupt politicians want power and these giant lobbyists pay for their electoral victories. Conservatives and Liberals both agree this is a problem. The difference is conservatives want those jobs back for Americans and Liberals want minimum wage laws cause somehow people wanting to work for a living is racist.

This is facile. Are central banks interest rate controls 'central planning?' Is incentivizing businesses to not offshore cemtral planning? Are minimum wage laws not central planning? I'm all about the free market but there has to be some regulation or you have great depressions and child labor.