Originally Posted by well named
I mean, I think there's a point to the accusation that Clinton has never seemed to really grasp what it's like not to be rich. I remember some interview with her where she was complaining about being poor after Bill left the whitehouse, wherein poor meant having accumulated 7 figures in debt and needing a bit of time to pay it off from Bill's speaking fees. And it's just like, yeah that's not what it's like to be poor. The sense of entitlement and cluelessness in that interview was palpable.
Now of course I would greatly prefer Clinton as president to Trump, for a whole variety of reasons, but I'm pretty sympathetic to accusations that the Democratic party establishment is also captured in its own way by wealthy interests, and that it's a problem that so many politicians from both parties come from such privileged backgrounds.
JFC, both clintons grew up as middle class at best, and got ahead solely due to their own education. to knock them for paying off debt while one of them was trying to stay in politics and the other just left politics after spending most savings on legal defense since at least the late 80's. for crying out loud, clinton spoke at my convocation in 2001, and was probably paid the same amount as janet reno and christopher reeves. whoopty freaking doo, what a privileged *****. talk to me when you are on foodstamps amirite?
to continue to throw shade for speaking fees is a form of whattaboutism. accusations about the dnc are pretty much always what the right are already doing, including the nomination and election of the most corrupt priveleged anti intellectual pro war baby as president who may have also accepted help from a hostile dictator. its not hard to remember this exact trump campaign language, which is now revealed about the trump administration itself.
they are trying to run out the news cycle clock because they are better at yelling louder, but it's not difficult to see how fake news is probably a highly automated greater narrative algorithm, repackaging stories with new names and details and self references, even able to grab as new input stuff like crazy ramblings of a foxnews viewing idiot off twitter/Reddit/message board. as much as I'd like to believe we are dealing with humans, most of the time we are arguing with bad Eliza implementations. Yes it's infuriating to you and doesn't make you like the gop any more, but they've actually succeeded in getting you to repeat a lie about the dnc establishment to yourself over and over.