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Old 07-16-2017, 10:35 AM   #9401
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Make Falsely Equating Everything With All Socialism Great Again! MFEEWASGA!

Torturous dishonesty is a propaganda ploy, not merely just trolling.
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:43 AM   #9402
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You really can't be so astonishingly dim as to have missed that I was calling Trump an authoritarian. That was the blatantly obvious point -- YOU are supporting an authoritarian.

Ban for trolling pls.


I agree, you should be banned for trolling and not understanding authoritarianism. Let me give you a start since you seem so fond of citations:

http://www.politico.com/interactives...n-regulations/

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Old 07-16-2017, 10:49 AM   #9403
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I agree, you should be banned for trolling and not understanding authoritarianism. Let me give you a start since you seem so fond of citations:

http://www.politico.com/interactives...n-regulations/

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Good, so we are in agreement then that you are a propagandist focused on contributing to the weakening of American democracy, a spreader of fear and hate, a supporter of fascism, and, arguably worst of all, your humor is not funny -- it's like painful and embarrassing to watch you trying to be funny.
 
Old 07-16-2017, 10:54 AM   #9404
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Good, so we are in agreement then that you are a propagandist focused on contributing to the weakening of American democracy, a spreader of fear and hate, a supporter of fascism, and, arguably worst of all, your humor is not funny -- it's like painful and embarrassing to watch you trying to be funny.


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Old 07-16-2017, 11:02 AM   #9405
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Googling it I find that this "Hitler was a socialist" thing was not invented by idiots in this thread, but is an idiotic thing on idiotic sites for idiots like Infowars.

Of course it's all idiotic crap. The Reichstag Fire was framing the communists. Hitler attacked all the unions, closed them, tortured, killed, and sent labor leaders to concentration camps.

http://www.peoplesworld.org/article/...estroy-unions/
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:03 AM   #9406
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Good, so we are in agreement then that you are a propagandist focused on contributing to the weakening of American democracy, a spreader of fear and hate, a supporter of fascism, and, arguably worst of all, your humor is not funny -- it's like painful and embarrassing to watch you trying to be funny.
Modern propaganda is designed to make it's targets seem complicit in spreading it, even to themselves. So when a regime supporter somehow pierces the absurdity, they may become embarrassed.

I see it. There is no need to be embarrassed. It's just bad actors exploiting the structures of information transmission available, it not a life sentence.
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:07 AM   #9407
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Googling it I find that this "Hitler was a socialist" thing was not invented by idiots in this thread, but is an idiotic thing on idiotic sites for idiots like Infowars.

Of course it's all idiotic crap. The Reichstag Fire was framing the communists. Hitler attacked all the unions, closed them, tortured, killed, and sent labor leaders to concentration camps.

http://www.peoplesworld.org/article/...estroy-unions/
A totalitarian regime could mandate a statement of being socialist be broadcast in every home in their jurisdiction every minute 24 hours/day and still not be socialist.
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:10 AM   #9408
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Hitler was not an Anarcho-Capitalist though, and these AC clowns do think anyone who doesn't want to privatize everything is a socialist.
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:16 AM   #9409
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Quite good Edwin Black article from JVL on GM's dealings with Hitler. Chairman Alfred P Sloan did it not just for the money but because he was ideologically opposed to FDR's New Deal.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...he-third-reich

You'll note that GM, with Standard Oil and IG Farben, set up the tetraethyl lead plants in Germany that produced the Luftwaffe's enhanced aviation fuel. And GM licence-built the Junkers Jumo engines for the Luftwaffe's best bomber and night fighter, the Junkers 88. And other munitions like torpedo fuses. GM was actually bombing Britain and sinking Allied merchant ships. And the Reich administrator who ran Opel during wartime was the existing GM-appointed manager.

Seems GM was paid $33,000,000 compensation after the war for Allied bomb damage. The damage was done by the RAF, but I think it was the US government that paid up.
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:16 AM   #9410
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Hitler was not an Anarcho-Capitalist though, and these AC clowns do think anyone who doesn't want to privatize everything is a socialist.
Well, yeah. Instead of cop-opting socialism superficially- demonize it.
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:19 AM   #9411
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Not forgetting IBM, whose Hollerith punch-card data systems enabled the SS to carry out the Holocaust, being used for census purposes and the actual running of the death camps. The machines, even those installed at Auschwitz, Mauthausen, Dachau and such places, were always owned and operated by IBM, not the Reich government.

Edwin Black again:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...alculator-quot
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:35 AM   #9412
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Good, so we are in agreement then that you are a propagandist focused on contributing to the weakening of American democracy, a spreader of fear and hate, a supporter of fascism, and, arguably worst of all, your humor is not funny -- it's like painful and embarrassing to watch you trying to be funny.
I actually think he's funny.

Not as funny as the "content" of this post, though. Weakening of American democracy? Supporter of fascism?

Lol.
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:37 AM   #9413
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Why are you quoting Hitler as if he was honest about everything he said? You should read a book about what actually happened in HItlers Germany economically. Der Reich Minister basically controlled the means of production. It was completely socialist.
Sounds a lot like fat hitler. Pays lip service to the mouthbreathing cheerleaders for capitalism, then pushes for all sorts of tariffs to prop up failing industries. That's definitely one way for the government to control the economy.
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:02 PM   #9414
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It seems as Hitler had a lot of control of the means of production in these companies - so far as to conspire to withhold inventions and technology from opposing nations. It's as if he was centrally planning the his country's resources. Damn Socialists.
Yeah, no. Hitler was more puppet than puppeteer. US industrialists (and their bankers, and their lawyers) supported Hitler for their own ideological reasons, which were distinctly not socialistic.

Hitler's backers included the father of the Koch Brothers, who built the dictator an oil refinery in Hamburg and went on to found the far-right John Birch Society in the US. The Du Ponts, who controlled Du Pont chemicals and GM (and supplied the TEL fuel without which, according to Albert Speer, the Nazi war effort could never have been launched), sponsored far-right and anti-union movements in the US.

http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/53/dupont.html

The US ambassador to Germany, William E. Dodd, stated in 1937 that in his view US industrialists played a large part in creating and sustaining the Fascist regimes in Germany and Italy. (And Spain, he might have added, though he didn't.)

http://jewishcurrents.org/doing-business-with-hitler/

During the war, the Reich government engaged in complex arrangements with its US backers to disguise their collaboration while allowing them to maintain control of their German operations and keep taking the profit. A remarkably detailed account of these shenanigans, in terms of Du Pont and GM, by Thomas DeBaggio, appeared in Penthouse, of all places, in 1976.

https://www.scribd.com/document/2387...-and-the-Nazis

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Old 07-16-2017, 01:12 PM   #9415
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Yeah, no. Hitler was more puppet than puppeteer. US industrialists (and their bankers, and their lawyers) supported Hitler for their own ideological reasons, which were distinctly not socialistic.

Hitler's backers included the father of the Koch Brothers, who built the dictator an oil refinery in Hamburg and went on to found the far-right John Birch Society in the US. The Du Ponts, who controlled Du Pont chemicals and GM, sponsored far-right movements in the US.

The US ambassador to Germany stated in 1937 that in his view US industrialists played a large part in creating and sustaining the Fascist regimes in Germany and Italy. (And Spain, he might have added, though he didn't.)

http://jewishcurrents.org/doing-business-with-hitler/

During the war, the Reich government engaged in complex arrangements with its US backers to disguise their collaboration while allowing them to maintain control of their German operations and keep taking the profit. A remarkably detailed account of these shenanigans, in terms of Du Pont and GM, by Thomas DeBaggio, appeared in Penthouse, of all places, in 1976.

https://www.scribd.com/document/2387...-and-the-Nazis
Hitler apologists aren't generally tolerated around here.

You should take your "it wasn't really Hitler's fault" takes back to Stormfront.
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:19 PM   #9416
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Remember this, everyone?

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Old 07-16-2017, 01:27 PM   #9417
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:29 PM   #9418
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Trump just needs to man up and indict hillary. Bring that bag back into the public consciousness and his number will go up, its an election promise as well.

his approval numbers only matter for election since his base is about 30% of the voter base and the gop control the government

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Old 07-16-2017, 01:40 PM   #9419
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Blame someone else some more is already great though.
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:41 PM   #9420
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Hitler apologists aren't generally tolerated around here.

You should take your "it wasn't really Hitler's fault" takes back to Stormfront.
Hitler's actions were totally Hitler's fault, and you're being deliberately dishonest.
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:44 PM   #9421
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Blame someone else some more is already great though.
yeah the left and the media will go into a frenzy and all this russia and health care talk will go bye bye

The gop has complete control and Trump has decided to be nice and soft to the dems, all that its resulted in is them spitting in his face. Its time for him to go after hillary and lynch, nice guys finish last!
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:45 PM   #9422
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Hitler's actions were totally Hitler's fault, and you're being deliberately dishonest.
In light of the lack of free speech in this forum I'll just say I'm being deliberately something because you're a something something.
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:48 PM   #9423
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In light of the lack of free speech in this forum I'll just say I'm being deliberately something because you're a something something.
No, you are simply an American nationalist.
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:52 PM   #9424
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No, you are simply an American nationalist.
That's a laugh, but I'm not immune to bigots such as yourself and you are the biggest nationalist on the whole forum.
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:53 PM   #9425
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yeah the left and the media will go into a frenzy and all this russia and health care talk will go bye bye

The gop has complete control and Trump has decided to be nice and soft to the dems, all that its resulted in is them spitting in his face. Its time for him to go after hillary and lynch, nice guys finish last!
Blame someone else, repeatedly is already great though. Cruel guys get lawfully executed.
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