The govt. is not poor.

So give minorities more money from Social Security by taxing the rich more. That's the beauty with Social Security, you can simply fix any problem you can imagine. You have to understand JiggyMac that all these so called "problems" are easy to fix but, of course, that's not what you were wanting to say. You wanted to say we should get rid of Social Security and move towards more stock market oriented solutions which would disproportionally support white upper class people. That's because we already know you're a tool for the 1% because you vicariously support them because you imagine yourself as one of them instead of where you are really. That allows people to own you repeatedly.

what are you even talking about here

so?

Freidman, for all his claims about liberty, advised an authoritarian military dictatorship in Chile who implemented his policies and decimated the country to the point where all the libertarian advisers got fired.

You say trickle down works. It trickled and the middle class got worse. What happened? Do we just need to be more patient for the trickle to get there?

Socialism is awesome, until you run out of other people's money. :smh:

Lol pithy phrasing. That's all that's left.

decimated chile? it is literally a diamond in a sea of terribly run countries. A place with no resources is now one of the richest and most stable places in the continent. I'm not giving Friedman all the credit, but had the communist government not been overthrown this would 100% not be the case.

compare chile and venezula, chile and brazil, and you can clearly see which economic system works

you just read what you wanted to read

trickle down works in the sense it makes the overall system more efficient and increases the productivity of the nation. It probably works for the middle but I made no guarantees

blaming trickle down when globalization and gender equality are the dominant economic forces in the past 40 years is silly. The middle class hasn't seen pay increases in the past 30 years primarily because of gender equality and globalization. More workers=less price of labor.

before you scream sexist at me I'm not advocating government intervention and preventing women who want to work to work in order to bring about higher labor prices, thats what a leftist might do. These are just the facts.

Overthrown? Sounds a bit prosaic instead of the torture and death inflicted on the population. Understandably you wouldn't care about that, why would you? Those are just the funny Spanish speakers who you have to dial 1 for. The leader of the overthrow, of course, immediately started setting up accounts to siphon money off of the population so much so that he was brought back for trial. How did Friedman, who is a supposedly supporter of liberty, not see that the effects of his policies would disproportionally favor the select few who would then rob the country for their own personal gain? The fact is that the personal robbery of the country didn't matter to Friedman so long as the primacy of private property was supported.

Corey Lewandowski: Dudes, Trump was with me in Florida during the time of the meeting. Hurr durr nothing durger.

Um... no.



www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/jul/14/corey-lewandowski/lewandowski-wrongly-says-trump-florida-day-trump-t/

stop with your feelings

is chile far better than Venezuala?
is chile far better than Brazil?

the answers to these questions are obvious.

I personally think the communist government would be even more brutal than the military junta but thats just opinion. Blaming Friedman who by empirical fact helped Chile become more prosperous because of the evil of pinochle is just silly

Good thing Trump fired that dude.

So how did those 30 years work out for the rich?

fired. yeah, fired. :wink:

Feelings? What kind of sadist reduces the systematic torture that affected a whole country to mere feelings?

Of course the general population wasn't going to support a political system that stripped much of the power from democratic institutions what were responsive to the people and place it in the hands of a aristocratic elite as Friedman envisioned in his ideal world of protecting property rights over democracy. Torture and violence then becomes integral to it. That's why those who agitated the most against it; the union leaders, the teachers, the peasants, were the ones tortured and not the military or the aristocrats.

Would you rather be a middle class 35 year old today or a middle class 35 year old 30 years ago? Please explain if your answer isn't "a 35 year old today AINEC".

yeah ofc a 35 year old today, but thats because of technological advance.

Life is complex lets not conflate issues

it worked out well for them, more labor=lower prices of labor=more profits

whats your point

It should probably be pointed out that, in spite of being "fired", he was spotted around the campaign until the inauguration.

Really? The obvious one -- the bottom line, it ain't trickled down.

Technological advances brought on mostly from the evil rich people, right?

yes

I already explained to you that when a politician talks about a rising tide that lifts all boats or that trickle down will lessen economic disparity they are lying to you.

Trickle down increases the overall productivity of a society, and it does that well.