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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
We know Hillary received funds from Saudi Arabia, Russia, and China. We can talk about Don Jr. after Hillary is behind bars.
No one gives a **** about Hillary.
No one gives a **** about Don Jr. either except where he implicates Don Sr.
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
I will say this - one of the primary reasons we are in hostile state with Russia is BECAUSE of Obama's feckless incompetence in foreign policy. Can't really blame Trump for that.
Even if I grant you this, it doesn't matter
why we are in a hostile state with Russia.
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Good luck trying to find a law on the books that will apply to what Don did.
I mean, it looks like well named might have found one but I am no expert on the law and to be honest I don't really care. As conservatives are fond of saying these days, impeachment is a political process.
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
I understand you don't pay much attention to world politics. It's ok - I wouldn't expect you to. Apparently you've forgotten - red lines, reset buttons, Uranium sales, Crimea ****-ups, Yemen bombings, Gitmo still open, the list goes on and on.
What, dude, like I'll just grant you for the sake of argument that Obama was the worst president ever. It doesn't matter. It's not relevant to the conversation we are having here.
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Originally Posted by pokerodox
@ WN, OP and TD (and anyone interested), so, as WN and I pointed out, the law does not require the foreign national be hostile or connected to a government. Soliciting something of value (advice or information?) from your Canadian friend would violate the law. Thus, we have to look at past practices (or our own sense of morals???) for what is wrong here.
Now, let's say he did solicit information. Are you saying it's wrong to receive or solicit information from someone connected or purporting to be connected to a hostile government for campaign purposes?
Re "colluding," that makes it sound like something else, like tampering with voting machines. You can still call it colluding, but it's colluding to receive damaging information about your opponent.
I want more information about past practices, and the last 20 times this law was enforced. I will do a quick search for the fact patter I think I remember re Iran. I could be wrong on that.
While I think discussions about the letter and enforcement of specific laws are interesting, it isn't what I'm talking about. I haven't even read the law that well named linked.
Like, I think that what Don Jr. did was wrong, in a common sense way that hiring your Canadian friend is not. But really I don't give one **** about Don Jr. anyway unless Don Sr. is implicated.