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Originally Posted by microbet
Yeah, both Afghanistan and Iraq were well ****ed by 2008. I recently read a book on Afghanistan (No Good Men Among the Living) and it seems like Afghanistan could have gone a much better direction, but things went pretty stupid almost immediately after the very quick military route of the Taliban.
(thanks for the recommendation)
Also, there's this weird mix of disingenuousness and concern trolling where they blame O for the ME when he did exactly what they wanted him to do!
You personally, microbet, have criticized O for his hawkishness, which is pretty much a fact. Some might not call it 'hawkishness' and others might say it he was forced to play a bad hand, that he was hamstrung, et cetera, but the fact is he continued the wars. That is what they wanted, and now somehow O is blamed for the ME being a mess. 'War Is Hell' is the premier phrase but 'War Makes Messes' also works.
It's like this: there's a scene from The Wire where Bunk's wife calls him home to deal with a mouse, basically by any means necessary. So, he fires two shots, one hitting the armoire and the other hitting the mouse. We can't let terrorist mice win.