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02-08-2017 , 12:50 PM
What does giving him a chance entail? Are people supposed to avoid pointing out any of BS he slings about in the first year or so of his time in office?
02-08-2017 , 12:52 PM
Does it mean we shouldn't point out when he lies or does things that are bad? Why aren't you guys pointing out his victories? There must be something he's done that are excited about and link to some fox article about it.
02-08-2017 , 12:54 PM
Sounds like Trump needs a safe space or he can't do his job.
02-08-2017 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Thank goodness they shut this nutball up.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...on-debate.html
They "shut her up" for reading the letter MLK's widow wrote criticizing Sessuons in 1986. Pretty hilarious that Republicans need the Senate to be a safe space for them and even more hilarious that you endorse it.
02-08-2017 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Thank goodness they shut this nutball up.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...on-debate.html
so, any of the milo free speech defenders think its wrong to deny warren the right to speak?
02-08-2017 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
They "shut her up" for reading the letter MLK's widow wrote criticizing Sessuons in 1986. Pretty hilarious that Republicans need the Senate to be a safe space for them and even more hilarious that you endorse it.
Yall need to get with the times. That was 31 years ago. Plus she broke the rules.

Sessions will much better than that snake Loretta Lynch. Do you remember her conversation with Bill Clinton on the plane?
02-08-2017 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
so, any of the milo free speech defenders think its wrong to deny warren the right to speak?
She broke the rules fella!
02-08-2017 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
so, any of the milo free speech defenders think its wrong to deny warren the right to speak?
So do you honestly believe that taking illegal and violent action to prevent someone from speaking, is the same as stopping someone who is not following the rules of the forum or building they are in?
02-08-2017 , 01:24 PM
Presented without comment.

02-08-2017 , 01:30 PM
Not watched without comment
02-08-2017 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
The media is obviously hugely biased in one direction. There is no denying the fact, as every single thing he's done has been criticized. The Trump administration knows this so they just say some ridiculous things. It keeps the media busy reporting absurdity and people will start to realize how dumb their reporting really is. I mean, just look at the stories everyone is talking about when it comes to his adminstration.

As far as a distraction, I'm unsure how much of a motive that is. He fired away with some executive orders but he's waiting for his confirmations. Once that happens they start going into high gear. I think they are aware they have a small window here in case they lose a lot of seats in the midterms, which historically has proven true. I wouldn't be surprised if that trend doesn't hold true in this upcoming one but I'd have to actually research it, which I haven't at all.
Sure, I think Trump might get a political advantage out of lying to the media. I also agree that much of the traditional mainstream media doesn't like Trump. I just wish the president did not lie to the American people as part of his feud with the media.
02-08-2017 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ogallalabob
So do you honestly believe that taking illegal and violent action to prevent someone from speaking, is the same as stopping someone who is not following the rules of the forum or building they are in?
Anarchists engaged in violence, Democrats did not support them. Democrats did support the peaceful protesters using their free speech rights to express their opposition to Milo. But the anarchists, I denounce them, look, I disavow, okay!

Meanwhile, the College Republicans invited the hatemonger Milo to speak and the actual elected Republicans shut down reading a letter from MLK's wife.

Good to see that you holding mainstream Republicans to the moral standard of violent anarchists since the moral debauchery of each are obvious. Admitting you have a problem is the first step.
02-08-2017 , 01:45 PM


Two things:
1. The president is using his office to pressure businesses on behalf of his family members, which is of course a gross misuse of power, and
2. This tweet was sent 21 minutes after his intelligence briefing started according to the WH schedule LOL
02-08-2017 , 01:48 PM
Give him a chance though.
02-08-2017 , 01:58 PM
Republicans were able to get more than 20x the votes to stop the letter of MLK's wife from being read than they have to oppose a single one of Trump's picks/actions. Deplorable!
02-08-2017 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer


Two things:
1. The president is using his office to pressure businesses on behalf of his family members, which is of course a gross misuse of power, and
2. This tweet was sent 21 minutes after his intelligence briefing started according to the WH schedule LOL
Yet no one wants to talk about the unfair treatment of Ivanka!
02-08-2017 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
Anarchists engaged in violence, Democrats did not support them. Democrats did support the peaceful protesters using their free speech rights to express their opposition to Milo. But the anarchists, I denounce them, look, I disavow, okay!

Meanwhile, the College Republicans invited the hatemonger Milo to speak and the actual elected Republicans shut down reading a letter from MLK's wife.

Good to see that you holding mainstream Republicans to the moral standard of violent anarchists since the moral debauchery of each are obvious. Admitting you have a problem is the first step.
Does it matter who shut Milo down? It is clear he was shut down due to violence and illegal means. The peaceful protesters would not have been able to shut him down.

Now I am not sure what evidence you have that the violent anarchists are not Democrats? Really would like to see it. But, it does not matter. Milo was invited, he had every right to speak and was prevented by illegal and violent means. That is wrong. I would have no problem if the place refused to invite him because it violated the rules of the institution or those in charge stopped his speech if he violated those rules.

Further, it is clear that Warren was attacking Sessions character. Just because it is an old letter and from MLK's wife really is besides the point. Warren agreed with the attacks and indicated they would go on if allowed to speak. Now maybe the Senate should get rid of the rule and let the Senators make such attacks. It would make for a more interesting Senate but that is not the rules.

Just like on this forum if you violate the rules the mods can stop you from speaking and delete your post. There really is not much difference.
02-08-2017 , 02:25 PM
Evidence that they were Democrats? Really would like to see it! Seems to me that if you vehemently reject the state like anarchists do then you wouldn't vote. And if they somehow did vote Democrat, I said I disavow, okay, I disavow!

Funny that you hate on the Democrats because of the actions of anarchists but you have nothing to say about the ACTUAL UNDISPUTED COLLEGE REPUBLICANS inviting Milo to speak. Shouldn't you be hating on both the anarchists and the College Republicans, or do you welcome Milo-ism under your Republican tent?

Rules are subject to interpretation. Here the Republicans have put forward a person with a checkered past, to put it mildly, then shut down all criticism of him. This is deplorable and anti-democratic. As you are a well-educated scholar, you surely know that Senators have the power to change the rules under which they operate. If they truly believed this was an unfortunate situation where the rules forced them to act like fascists by not allowing dissent on the confirmation of the person tasked with the minor duty of ENFORCING ALL FEDERAL LAWS then they should have changed the rules like you say. If you think that would make things would be too crazy, could just add a minor exception when its during a confirmation hearing. Your obviously a smart guy, sure you could figure it out!

Instead, they bastardized the rule. Surprised that you support this, seems like it would be obviously anti-American to most honorable people.

Last edited by Pwn_Master; 02-08-2017 at 02:33 PM.
02-08-2017 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ogallalabob
Further, it is clear that Warren was attacking Sessions character. Just because it is an old letter and from MLK's wife really is besides the point.
It's actually the entire point and is the reason behind all the "Warren 2020" articles you'll see around left-wing media today. McConnell gift-wrapped that one and handed it to the Democrats.
02-08-2017 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ogallalabob
So do you honestly believe that taking illegal and violent action to prevent someone from speaking, is the same as stopping someone who is not following the rules of the forum or building they are in?
there are only rare instances of illegal and violent action. mostly the entire sjw thread is complaining that they try to "shout ppl down" and make demands.
02-08-2017 , 02:39 PM
Trump's DoD is considering leasing space at Trump Tower, which would enable taxpayers to put money directly in Donald Trump's pocket!

This is just one of those "National Enquirer"-type stories I'm not supposed to post, right?
02-08-2017 , 02:54 PM
Overseer Sessions is like attacking Natives, banning Muslims, and erasing Jews for Blacks. What's these "leaders" got cooking for Women?
02-08-2017 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mori****a System
Presented without comment.

This is interesting, as geopolitics in the middle East are so insanely complicated. The Syrians I know personally support Assad. Plus if it'll help repair our relationship with the Israelis (which I'm unsure of) I'm sure the Trump administration would prefer that.

The next few years will be interesting.
02-08-2017 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Not watched without comment
It's amusing the people on your side constantly refuse to actually view different perspectives. When it comes to your silly feelings we should all take time to "educate" ourselves on your ridiculous positions but when it comes to the other side it's a handwave.
02-08-2017 , 02:58 PM
I can't speak for kerowo, but posting youtube links is the worst possible way to make a point or educate someone. Videos are an incredibly inefficient way to disseminate information, post an article instead ffs. I never watch youtubezzz that get posted in politics and it has nothing to do with the person posting it or the content of the video.

      
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