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Old 07-09-2017, 10:32 PM   #8201
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The middle of the state is mostly gullible idiots.
They did not make an irrational choice. They would rather roll the dice and see what happens than vote for an assured negative outcome. Most people would.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:33 PM   #8202
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This simply isn't accurate. Multiple things happened to propel him to win PA. Blue collar Democrats switched sides in droves.
Obviously not every Trumper in PA is an uneducated idiot, but exit polling there shows that he won the "high school or less" educational demographic 56%-43%.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:34 PM   #8203
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Starting with Post #2383 in the "Gay Conservative Milo ……" LGBTQ thread, went on for several days. You cited a study you Googled form 40 years ago claiming exactly what I said.

I couldn't care less about the $100.
Quote where I said what you claimed. You made a false claim, not me.

You looked up the post number. It's simple to quote me. Do it.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:36 PM   #8204
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You claimed that your average homosexual male has "1000+" sex partners, followed by an entire forum of people explaining to you how mathematically impossible that was.
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Please quote, or retract this statement. I am sure I've never said this. If you can quote this I will PayPal you 100 dollars immediately and apologize in public, with no risk to you.

Show your work.
wil, have you ever linked to a study that claimed ~a third of gay men have had over 1000 partners?
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:36 PM   #8205
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Obviously not every Trumper in PA is an uneducated idiot, but exit polling there shows that he won the "high school or less" educational demographic 56%-43%.
You are making sweeping accusations which amount to claims of racism. PA went to Obama twice. Your claims are unfounded and reprehensible.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:37 PM   #8206
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They did not make an irrational choice. They would rather roll the dice and see what happens than vote for an assured negative outcome. Most people would.
I'll bring back coal jobs---> nope

A new great health care plan----> nope

Build a wall and Mexico pays ---> nope

Shall I continue?
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:38 PM   #8207
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The coal thing is what won him PA and it was a huge lie.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:38 PM   #8208
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wil, have you ever linked to a study that claimed ~a third of gay men have had over 1000 partners?
We do not have to go over that argument again. 2outs made a claim. I asked him to quote me. You are welcome to do it for him.

I predict neither of you will. If you do I'll donate the money to either of you or any charity you wish.

Now quote me.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:39 PM   #8209
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We do not have to go over that argument again. 2outs made a claim. I asked him to quote me. You are welcome to do it for him.

I predict neither of you will. If you do I'll donate the money to either of you or any charity you wish.

Now quote me.
I don't think you made the claim directly, but I do think you linked to such a study. Did you or didn't you?
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He actually said he was going to repeal Ocare day one lolz
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I'll bring back coal jobs---> nope

A new great health care plan----> nope

Build a wall and Mexico pays ---> nope

Shall I continue?
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The coal thing is what won him PA and it was a huge lie.
They were guaranteed to get nothing with Clinton. They made a rational choice, even if they wind up with nothing 4 years from now. That's all I'm saying. You very well may wind up being right, I fully admit that. I'm simply saying I understand WHY they did it.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:40 PM   #8212
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You are making sweeping accusations which amount to claims of racism. PA went to Obama twice. Your claims are unfounded and reprehensible.
I used the word "redneck", but didn't actually mention anyone's race.

I didn't make a sweeping accusation, nor an unfounded claim. The statistic I just cited is from an actual exit poll.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:41 PM   #8213
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I don't think you made the claim directly, but I do think you linked to such a study. Did you or didn't you?
I guess it didn't take long for me to be proven correct.

2outs is wrong and everyone knows it. I rest my case.

Spoiler:
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:41 PM   #8214
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I used the word "redneck", but didn't actually mention anyone's race.

I didn't make a sweeping accusation, nor an unfounded claim. The statistic I just cited is from an actual exit poll.
Redneck usually refers to Puerto Ricans?
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:42 PM   #8215
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Dutch and French elections tho. So you're not going to answer if you ever linked to a study making such a claim?
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:47 PM   #8216
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Dutch and French elections tho.
No bet was made between any of us. My record is intact.

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So you're not going to answer if you ever linked to a study making such a claim?
This has nothing to do with the current discussion. 2outs made a claim and within 20 minutes was proven to be wrong. Not only is my record intact it might have been the quickest victory I've ever had.

Thanks guys, you just make me look better as time goes on. Time for bed, knocking your dicks off makes me sleepy. It's hard work making you people look this bad.

Night.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:47 PM   #8217
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I need audio and visual references of whites sensitive for the word redneck.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:48 PM   #8218
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We do not have to go over that argument again. 2outs made a claim. I asked him to quote me. You are welcome to do it for him.

I predict neither of you will. If you do I'll donate the money to either of you or any charity you wish.

Now quote me.
Post 2402 from the "Gay Conservative Milo …. " thread. Here's you linking to the aforementioned study:

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This is so colossally bad in every way. Lol @ using an okcupid survey that isn't corroborated by other forms of data.

How about I respond with this?

<links and rest of content removed>
Site removed the link, but that's the one we're talking about, as it was discussed in post #2405 by AOFrantic in a response to you:

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It's a ****ing embarrassment to anyone with an IQ over 40 for you to have linked that site as proof.

You actually think that 1/3 of gay men have over 1000 partners? It's incredibly hard to be this dumb. That's a different person a week for 20 years. For 1/3 of the population. There genuinely isn't a big enough homosexual community anywhere for this to even be possible without having the strangest of social lives.
Here's you asserting you know two such people personally:

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I used it as a counter to your idiotic quote.

Fwiw the two gay men I spoke to had well over 1000 partners each. Again, people are varied and complex but apparently casual sex between men in the gay community is much more acceptable than in other groups. Gay bath houses are a thing, it's not made up.

You are purposefully being deceitful in your examples. Different groups of people display different types of behavior. I know you'd REALLY like everyone to be the same but that's simply not true.
Continues on for several pages in which you double-down on the accusation multiple times.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:50 PM   #8219
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No bet was made between any of us. My record is intact.



This has nothing to do with the current discussion. 2outs made a claim and within 20 minutes was proven to be wrong. Not only is my record intact it might have been the quickest victory I've ever had.

Thanks guys, you just make me look better as time goes on. Time for bed, knocking your dicks off makes me sleepy. It's hard work making you people look this bad.

Night.
Only in your mind was this a win for you.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:52 PM   #8220
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...and your argument is that Merck, Pfizer, etc prefer this?

It does create a barrier to entry but it's a pretty big leap from "it protects their market position" to "they PREFER to incur billions of dollars in costs".

And again, what about things like worker safety laws that Trump is intent on dismantling and have nothing to do with barrier to entry? What about things like Dodd-Frank that Trump wants to dismantle in an industry where barrier to entry is already high and big banks don't need protection?
they do prefer this system, theres no competition (I have a big chunk of my portfolio in J&J because these companies will never fail essentially) and they get to sell with sky high prices in the USA.

regarding worker protection regulations, that hurts medium business way more, so its exactly what I'm talking about

regarding dodd frank, this is obviously a very complex issue, I personally believe its a horrible piece of legislation that creates bad incentives in that particular market.

not every piece of regulation is good for big buisness obv, the point is pointing to trump lowering regulation as evidence for him being in the pocket of large corporations is wrong. Theres many regulations which end up benefiting large corporations by stifling competition.
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:53 PM   #8221
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Post 2402 from the "Gay Conservative Milo …. " thread. Here's you linking to the aforementioned study:

Site removed the link, but that's the one we're talking about, as it was discussed in post #2405 by AOFrantic in a response to you:

Here's you asserting you know two such people personally:

Continues on for several pages in which you double-down on the accusation multiple times.
I've explained this many, many, many times. I linked a study to make a point that some studies are absurd. I did not link that study to argue it was accurate, I linked it to show how incorrect some studies are. I was making the opposite argument of what you are claiming. Everyone is free to read that exchange, and I stand by every word, 100%.
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Go to bed bro you just got served
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Old 07-09-2017, 10:59 PM   #8223
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Go to bed bro you just got served
You should hang out more in this forum, I'll wreck you too, just like I do everyone else.

Sleep well.
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Old 07-09-2017, 11:07 PM   #8224
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I've explained this many, many, many times. I linked a study to make a point that some studies are absurd. I did not link that study to argue it was accurate, I linked it to show how incorrect some studies are. I was making the opposite argument of what you are claiming. Everyone is free to read that exchange, and I stand by every word, 100%.
Extremely lengthy exchange that went all the way up to post #2900+, and you defended the study multiple times, including this back-and-forth (#2863)

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For the people who have been following Wil making a fool of himself today, the link he found that made himself so sure that gay men have thousands of partners....is an anonymous message board thread, on a forum much, much smaller than 2p2.

He didn't elect to share this because it's ****ing embarrassing, obviously.
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I stand by my statements and I'd invite you to bring gay men into this thread to discuss it. There are many gay message boards out there. Go read them.

It is no question, without a doubt, a total slam dunk that I am correct on this topic. Go read them yourself. It's literally spelled out to you on those boards.

Report back with results.
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Old 07-09-2017, 11:44 PM   #8225
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No bet was made between any of us. My record is intact.
wil you posted about being "proven wrong", that has nothing to do with betting. You thought the Dutch and French elections were gonna go much better for the far right than they actually did. That was yet another instance you were proven wrong!
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