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07-07-2017 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Abbaddabba
And Bush Jr went to harvard and yale.
GWB is way smarter than Trump so I don't know if that's totally fair. In general though I think it's just silly to act like where some rich kid went to school is reflective of the student and not their last name. Here's ProPublica on Jared Kushner, as an example:

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New Jersey real estate developer Charles Kushner had pledged $2.5 million to Harvard University in 1998, not long before his son Jared was admitted to the prestigious Ivy League school. At the time, Harvard accepted about one of every nine applicants.
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“There was no way anybody in the administrative office of the school thought he would on the merits get into Harvard,” a former official at The Frisch School in Paramus, New Jersey, told me. “His GPA did not warrant it, his SAT scores did not warrant it. We thought for sure, there was no way this was going to happen. Then, lo and behold, Jared was accepted. It was a little bit disappointing because there were at the time other kids we thought should really get in on the merits, and they did not.”
07-07-2017 , 08:30 PM
In what way is bush smarter?

Kushner not having ivy league SAT/GPA is not nearly as damning as the fact that he's in his 30s with no relevant experience and is a senior adviser.

Those scores matter for schools to keep it meritocratic but getting top grades and acing the SAT is almost entirely about how competitive you're willing to be, and it's understandable why someone in his position wouldn't want to jump through the hoops necessary to compete with people who're hungrier.
07-07-2017 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
On the subject of being successful without working hard, this guy seems like a good example: My Own Private Basic Income



So even then, dude wasn't working hard and making a killing. And now, he has a real estate business where his participation is as difficult as "giving his brother money":





idk though, is he in the top 50% of professors and/or landlords? Hard to say if he's successful w/o that info.
oh man. where is bah bah? dude is not gonna like that article.
07-07-2017 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
wil, what if I told you that even a pathetic schmuck like me has passive income from real estate investments similar to this guy's?

Do you think this is that uncommon? lol
I'd agree you are a pathetic schmuck.
07-07-2017 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
And remember, wil literally didn't think it was possible to be successful if you worked <=40 hours a week hahaha
I think the premise is correct. I don't know successful people who don't work hard, in the sense they work harder than the average person. Inherited wealth or getting into a particularly advantageous situation like the person in that article where they were being paid 3x the normal rate or hitting the ****ing Powerball don't really count.

If working 40 hour weeks was an easy path to success, more people would be successful, by definition. That is not the case. The norm is mediocrity, not rising above it. The average guy schlepping 40 hour weeks just isn't rising very high. That's just the truth in almost every case I've come across.

Sorry.
07-07-2017 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
On the subject of being successful without working hard, this guy seems like a good example: My Own Private Basic Income



So even then, dude wasn't working hard and making a killing. And now, he has a real estate business where his participation is as difficult as "giving his brother money":





idk though, is he in the top 50% of professors and/or landlords? Hard to say if he's successful w/o that info.
whats your point, life isn't fair

your point about capital being better than labour at a certain point is?
not everyone can delay gratification and make simple investments, mike tyson blew more money than the entire combined bloodline of everyone whos ever posted in this thread.
07-07-2017 , 09:58 PM
By the way, I really like how goofy glossed over the fact the mfer in the article had to move to QATAR.
07-08-2017 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I think the premise is correct. I don't know successful people who don't work hard, in the sense they work harder than the average person. Inherited wealth or getting into a particularly advantageous situation like the person in that article where they were being paid 3x the normal rate or hitting the ****ing Powerball don't really count.

If working 40 hour weeks was an easy path to success, more people would be successful, by definition. That is not the case. The norm is mediocrity, not rising above it. The average guy schlepping 40 hour weeks just isn't rising very high. That's just the truth in almost every case I've come across.

Sorry.
There're a lot of people who dont make a lot because they don't need the money, but for people who're working 40 hours a week until retirement the problem isn't work ethic as much as it is them not knowing how to apply themselves to improve the value of their labor.

If you have influences in your life who guide you towards developing a marketable skill while you're young you don't have to work hard at all to cross the 100k barrier. The problem is people don't know how, they become distrustful of schools who charge hefty price tags for programs that don't deliver, and they get comfortable enough in their daily routine that they shut themselves off to new ideas.
07-08-2017 , 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
I've estimated the amount of afternoon meals which occur without money involved is virtually unlimited.
It's all really just one long trough that stretches from Heaven to Hell.
07-08-2017 , 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I think the premise is correct. I don't know successful people who don't work hard, in the sense they work harder than the average person.
Well there you go again. In typical fashion you cite a self-selected sample without having the basic intelligence to see how flawed that is.
07-08-2017 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Abbaddabba
There're a lot of people who dont make a lot because they don't need the money, but for people who're working 40 hours a week until retirement the problem isn't work ethic as much as it is them not knowing how to apply themselves to improve the value of their labor.

If you have influences in your life who guide you towards developing a marketable skill while you're young you don't have to work hard at all to cross the 100k barrier. The problem is people don't know how, they become distrustful of schools who charge hefty price tags for programs that don't deliver, and they get comfortable enough in their daily routine that they shut themselves off to new ideas.
Not knowing how is not anyone's fault but theirs. The information is not a secret. And as far as it not being easy, the statistics wouldn't support your position, as the majority of people make significantly less.

And as far as work ethic, it is a common theme to read that younger people today value very different things. That's fine, it's their right to value and live their lives however they wish. But them whining about how the world is unfair is their own doing.
07-08-2017 , 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Well there you go again. In typical fashion you cite a self-selected sample without having the basic intelligence to see how flawed that is.
Maybe one day we can all strive to have the work ethic of Europeans? I mean, in America we just have a country full of suckers, right?
07-08-2017 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Maybe one day we can all strive to have the work ethic of Europeans? I mean, in America we just have a country full of suckers, right?
Your company obviously is.
07-08-2017 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Your company obviously is.
They pay me quite well to do what I do. I work there by choice. Do you have a point?
07-08-2017 , 08:08 AM
Lozl somebody told these dudes money doesn't grow on trees and they believed it. It totally does and wars have been fought over who owns those trees.
07-08-2017 , 04:25 PM
I moved a bunch of off-topic posts to the LC thread. I left the ones that were related to the article goofy posted, more or less. (It's not perfect)
07-08-2017 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I moved a bunch of off-topic posts to the LC thread.
What's the point? It's a drop in the bucket, you have way more work to do if there's actually an intent here to keep threads on topic.
07-08-2017 , 04:51 PM
Like everything else, the point is that it made me happy to click the buttons and see the things happening
07-08-2017 , 05:01 PM
He clicks, it happens. So be it.
07-08-2017 , 05:23 PM
Trump getting it done on the biggest stage. He took care of the political interference from the Russians and brokered a cease fire in Syria.

At what point do the libs get learned helplesness and give up. How pathetic that they have thrown everything they could to sabotage Trump and destabilize the country and he continues to win. How long till these people are brought to justice and punished for their treasonise crimes?
07-08-2017 , 05:26 PM
its alright cnn is in the process of ritual suicide rn
07-08-2017 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Trump getting it done on the biggest stage. He took care of the political interference from the Russians and brokered a cease fire in Syria.

At what point do the libs get learned helplesness and give up. How pathetic that they have thrown everything they could to sabotage Trump and destabilize the country and he continues to win. How long till these people are brought to justice and punished for their treasonise crimes?
So you think liberals should be put in jail and executed (that is the punishment for treason) for their "crime" of being critical of the president?

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07-08-2017 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
its alright cnn is in the process of ritual suicide rn
I thought the one thing we could agree on earlier in another thread was that mongidig is an idiot, yet you can't help back-patting him after something as dumb as "how long till these people are brought to justice and punished for their treasonise (ed. note: wow) crimes"?

Sad!
07-08-2017 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
So you think liberals should be put in jail and executed (that i the punishment for treason) for their "crime" of being critical of the president?
Some but not all. If you do something to damage the country you should brought to justice.

I'm sure President Trump will deal with these people. Now would be a good time to re think your values. It's not yoo late.
07-08-2017 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Some but not all. If you do something to damage the country you should brought to justice.

I'm sure President Trump will deal with these people. Now would be a good time to re think your values. It's not yoo late.
Your scumminess is far more then i thought. Whether for trolls and giggles or not.

      
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