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02-07-2017 , 08:03 PM
How does she make anything better exactly?
02-07-2017 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
1. It will never stop being funny that conservatives cry endlessly about the sources liberals use but apply ZERO scrutiny whatsoever to their own, see: mongo using the Washington Times here
2. While this article is great and everything, what does it have to do with "my sources"?
Don't deflect from the story. This is huge! Your people were duped hard!

This story is all over the place. You can't hide from it.
02-07-2017 , 08:57 PM
Have the allegations been proven?
02-07-2017 , 09:20 PM
I made sure to include my sources in today's edition since I know the very sensitive little souls in this thread do so detest having their worldview challenged by things like "newspapers of record in the United States".


Washington Times: Andrew Puzder, Trump's nominee for Secretary of Labor, admits hiring an undocumented immigrant as a maid

Politico: Trump upset at Spicer's unflattering portrayal on SNL mostly because he was played by a woman

Conservative Daily Post: Sean Spicer goes on Fox News to claim protesters of the travel ban are being paid to protest

Washington Post (sorry, I know, whole thing is probably a lie): Solar industry added 51,000 jobs last year but Trump's energy plan makes no mention of it (in their defense, that is an accurate description of the White House page on energy policy which only talks about oil/gas/clean coal - I think the liberal Fake News artists got one right here!)

Wall Street Journal: Trump's SEC reconsidering rule that requires companies to calculate pay discrepancy between CEOs and average workers

Reuters: Kuwait denies article shared by Trump claiming it also banned travelers from Middle East countries

Fox News: Melania Trump wins defamation suit against blogger and files a new one against the Daily Mail - I have to applaud Fox News' great work here in quoting the part of the lawsuit where she lays out her plans to make millions of dollars off her status as first lady:

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Originally Posted by Fox News
Melania Trump, the filing states, "had the unique, one-in-a-lifetime opportunity, as an extremely famous and well-known person, as well as a former professional model, brand spokesperson and successful businesswoman, to launch a broad-based commercial brand in multiple product categories, each of which could have garnered multimillion-dollar business relationships for a multi-year term during which Plaintiff is one of the most photographed women in the world."
Thanks for the great journalism, Fox!
02-07-2017 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Nate silver is a fool and so was 99% of all the polling data you looked at. And you all bought it hook line and sinker.

The LA times daybreak poll and one other were the ones that were capturing what was really going on. Trump was leading the entire race except for when the access Hollywood tape came out. And he still won.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

But hey, you keep on trusting that media!
lol at calling nate a fool.

dude is legit brilliant. very likely the smartest guy to ever set foot on 2p2.

I really dont see how you can be this critical of him if you actually read his methodology and how he explained things.

I think you may be drawing far too many conclusions from the result. just bc trump won does not mean that he was certain to win. the polls are not accurate. and that is why some ppl gave trump a percent likelihood to win. nate silver happened to give trump a much higher chance to win than almost all of the msm.

ofc, it is actually impossible to figure out which projection was correct bc we only have a sample size of one.
02-07-2017 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Don't deflect from the story. This is huge! Your people were duped hard!

This story is all over the place. You can't hide from it.
have you actually read any articles on what this dude alleges?

have you actually read the raw data?
02-07-2017 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
lol at calling nate a fool.

very likely the smartest guy to ever set foot on 2p2.
C'mon now, he is a sharp guy but this is just certainly not the case.

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ofc, it is actually impossible to figure out which projection was correct bc we only have a sample size of one.
This is not how statistics works. There is a MASSIVE amount of data after the election that allows one to analyze models leading up to the event.

For instance, I can quite confidently assert that Nate Silver's model was far, far more accurate than Goofball's which was so often referenced on this forum. "Actually impossible" smh that is absolute nonsense.
02-07-2017 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Don't deflect from the story. This is huge! Your people were duped hard!

This story is all over the place. You can't hide from it.
I mean, did you even read your own link?

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“While NOAA’s data management procedures may well need improvement, their results have been independently validated and agree with separate global temperature records created by other groups,” Mr. Hausfather said, citing Berkeley Earth and the U.K.’s Met Office Hadley Centre
2 independent sources validated the data.

http://www.livescience.com/57785-acc...-off-base.html

http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/1/e1601207

so, essentially the equipment on single data point may not have been rigorously vetted. which could be as trivial as simple paperwork. it is never explained what his issues were with that particular spot.

anyway, even if you remove the datapoints from that particular measuring device, guess what? the same conclusion. and the general trend was confirmed from 2 independent studies.
02-07-2017 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
C'mon now, he is a sharp guy but this is just certainly not the case.



This is not how statistics works. There is a MASSIVE amount of data after the election that allows one to analyze models leading up to the event.

For instance, I can quite confidently assert that Nate Silver's model was far, far more accurate than Goofball's which was so often referenced on this forum. "Actually impossible" smh that is absolute nonsense.
ok so which model was the best then?
02-07-2017 , 09:45 PM
Spoiler:
ofc :P
02-07-2017 , 09:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Victor
I mean, did you even read your own link?



2 independent sources validated the data.

http://www.livescience.com/57785-acc...-off-base.html

http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/1/e1601207

so, essentially the equipment on single data point may not have been rigorously vetted. which could be as trivial as simple paperwork. it is never explained what his issues were with that particular spot.

anyway, even if you remove the datapoints from that particular measuring device, guess what? the same conclusion. and the general trend was confirmed from 2 independent studies.
What is this bull****, haven't you been reading the thread? You're supposed to call it fake news and then pretend it was never posted.
02-07-2017 , 09:52 PM
Along similar lines, Iran's supreme leader says "we are thankful to Trump for showing the true face of America" and that Trump confirms "what we have been saying for more than 30 years about the political, economic, moral and social corruption in the U.S. ruling system". Thanks, Trump!

idk if this account is legit but Foreign Policy magazine linked to it:

02-07-2017 , 10:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Victor
I mean, did you even read your own link?



2 independent sources validated the data.

http://www.livescience.com/57785-acc...-off-base.html

http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/1/e1601207

so, essentially the equipment on single data point may not have been rigorously vetted. which could be as trivial as simple paperwork. it is never explained what his issues were with that particular spot.

anyway, even if you remove the datapoints from that particular measuring device, guess what? the same conclusion. and the general trend was confirmed from 2 independent studies.
How do you like me now?

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/...r-charges.html
02-07-2017 , 10:47 PM
Have his allegations been proved?
02-07-2017 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Along similar lines, Iran's supreme leader says "we are thankful to Trump for showing the true face of America" and that Trump confirms "what we have been saying for more than 30 years about the political, economic, moral and social corruption in the U.S. ruling system". Thanks, Trump!

idk if this account is legit but Foreign Policy magazine linked to it:

Nice deal you made with these people. You gave then 150 billion. You paid them ransom money.

Thanks for showing how stupid Obama was.
02-07-2017 , 10:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Victor
I mean, did you even read your own link?



2 independent sources validated the data.

http://www.livescience.com/57785-acc...-off-base.html

http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/1/e1601207

so, essentially the equipment on single data point may not have been rigorously vetted. which could be as trivial as simple paperwork. it is never explained what his issues were with that particular spot.

anyway, even if you remove the datapoints from that particular measuring device, guess what? the same conclusion. and the general trend was confirmed from 2 independent studies.
How can you trust these people?
02-07-2017 , 10:52 PM
Have his allegations been proven?
02-07-2017 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Can't you take a joke?
Sad but true fact.

SJWs don't do jokes. No sense of humor whatsoever.
02-07-2017 , 11:17 PM
It wasn't funny.
02-07-2017 , 11:21 PM
Proved my point.
02-07-2017 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
What is this bull****, haven't you been reading the thread? You're supposed to call it fake news and then pretend it was never posted.
I heard that anything negative towards dear leader was fake news. anything positive was the gods honest truth.
02-07-2017 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
I mean, read the article. it doesnt disprove or prove anything. in fact it actually corroborates my post.
02-07-2017 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
I mean, read the article. it doesnt disprove or prove anything. in fact it actually corroborates my post.
I've read every article. You should read it in it's entirety instead of just skimming it.

This is gonna get big.

      
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