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Anyone who understands the words fake and news aren't calling very much "fake news" at all, I'd imagine. The CNN we are talking about is the genuine CNN that has been doing the same kind of reporting of actual news for decades.

"Fake news" is virtually meaningless, except as a distraction to argue about.

07-02-2017 , 11:00 PM

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Fake lies? Phony idiocy?

https://www.wired.com/story/presiden...-and-untruths/

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It turns out if you want to talk about lies, St. Augustine is the main dude. “Whoever utters that which he holds in his mind either as belief or as opinion, even though it be false, he lies not,” Augustine wrote around 395 AD. “Not that he is without fault, although he lie not, if either he believes what he ought not to believe, or thinks he knows what he knows not, even though it should be true.” In other words, Augustine applies intent as a criterion. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, you’re a dope, but you’re not necessarily a liar.
So by Augustine’s lights, if you think the President is a cretin (or at least uninterested in the details of governance), then you don’t also get to call him a liar. Another story in the Times suggested that even senators don’t think the President understands the upper house’s version of a health care bill. Plenty of first- and second-hand accounts of conversations with Trump say or imply that he doesn’t know stuff. That’d put him on the “dope” side of the dope/liar spectrum.

07-02-2017 , 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

Have you even looked at your post in a mirror? Have you investigated the regime to insure it is not Nazi or Nazi-like?

What happens to your stroking of "genius" here when nazi-likes have shown up?

Are you standing on some sideline denying their boots are aimed for the neck while lies pour from their mouths?

Nothing remotely 'nazi' has been written or read by me or anyone else in this thread, and Donald Trumps presidency has next to nothing in common with Hitlers Third Reich.

07-02-2017 , 11:13 PM

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What you wrote:

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

I didn't say wil is a Nazi, pay attention. That's called a "strawman", dip****.

He is just so enamored with the idea of a big strong authoritarian leader and is willing to mold whatever reality he sees fit to support that leader.

Lots of people would have been Nazis in the 30s who aren't Nazis today. I sure hope I wouldn't have been but I don't know for sure how I would have reacted, it's possible I would have.

But wil? lol, zero question at all there.

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I didn't say he was a Nazi but he's a mindless sheep like the followers of Nazis and I hope I wouldn't have been a Nazi, but there is zero question he would have been a Nazi

07-02-2017 , 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot

Nothing remotely 'nazi' has been written or read by me or anyone else in this thread, and Donald Trumps presidency has next to nothing in common with Hitlers Third Reich.

Read it again.

07-02-2017 , 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

Read it again.

Read what again?

07-02-2017 , 11:31 PM

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When you are on the same side as Mike huckabee and Jerry Falwell jr you might be wrong. Thoughts William?

07-03-2017 , 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot

Read what again?

It.

"nazi-like"- would you recognize it? How?

07-03-2017 , 12:19 AM

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Is "viciously racist, antisemitic" nazi-like?

I'll take my answer off-air.

07-03-2017 , 12:21 AM

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you progressives call everything viciously racist and every other ist

so imma say no

07-03-2017 , 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BitchiBee

you progressives call everything viciously racist and every other ist

so imma say no

You are the one with a tired old repetitive denial-accusations. You'd be pwned by racists and not even know it- like a sucker.

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07-03-2017 , 12:37 AM

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lol maybe your -ist and -ophic labels would have meaning if progressives didn't use those with everyone they dislike while being massively hypocritical.

classic progressive hypocrisy this week

step 1. calls Kelly Anne Conway an ugly hag that looks like a botched post op transgender
step 2. trump tweets about Mika B.'s facelift
step 3. trump is a sexist for commenting on Mikas looks!!!!

your labels have no meaning. So yeah, trump tweeting from a twitter that some progressive calls racist and antisemitic means nothing.

07-03-2017 , 12:42 AM

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Your whining and crying about racism is meaningless and irresponsible. You instantly deny, no pause for investigation and have lame scapegoat type excuses. Weak.

07-03-2017 , 12:43 AM

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ok I investigated

the source of the trump gif is /r the donald

looks like another case of stupid progressive smearing

07-03-2017 , 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BitchiBee

ok I investigated

the source of the trump gif is /r the donald

looks like another case of stupid progressive smearing

Is that even an account?

Distortion is a sign you can't handle teh truth.

07-03-2017 , 12:50 AM

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the author of the post has 68k posts on reddit

07-03-2017 , 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot

Politics made easy: all my opponents are Nazis!

Such a ****ing childish point of view.

You're either with the regressive libs or you're a nazi.

07-03-2017 , 12:55 AM

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even if I were to buy into your assertion that that /u/ Han*******Solo is a david duke type. Which I don't for reasons stated above.

that would still not tarnish The President in any way shape or form.

07-03-2017 , 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Goofy admitting his potential support for the Nazis! Unbeliveable.

I know for a fact if I was around during that time I would have told the Nazis shove it! I aint following no such orders. Jerks!

07-03-2017 , 01:00 AM

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So you are a distorter full of excuses. Perfect for the trump regime: pathetic. Glad to capture your knee-jerk denial in real time.

07-03-2017 , 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot

Nothing remotely 'nazi' has been written or read by me or anyone else in this thread, and Donald Trumps presidency has next to nothing in common with Hitlers Third Reich.

Well, his campaign was certainly nazitastic.

07-03-2017 , 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 5ive

Well, his campaign was certainly nazitastic.

I think this is extremely disrespectful to those who were the victims of Nazis.

07-03-2017 , 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mongidig

I think this is extremely disrespectful to those who were the victims of Nazis.

I didn't capitalize 'nazi' on purpose.

07-03-2017 , 01:25 AM

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Nothing about any of this is even remotely controversial. When you have Fat Hitler promising the bigliest health care and jobs to the white people, so, like, socialist goodies but only for people of a certain nationality or national identity, guess what, turns out we have a word for that.

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