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06-28-2017 , 01:54 PM
Jacksonville cop threatens to arrest man for walking while black jaywalking, then threatens to cite him for made up law

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Bolen tells Shipman that the men weren’t in the crosswalk and that they walked when the sign indicated they shouldn’t.

“That’s a $65 ticket a piece,” Bolen says. “Get to my car. You are being legally detained. If you disobey … I will put you in jail.”

At one point during the interaction, the officer threatened to cite Shipman for not having his ID. When asked, the man recited his name and birth date without resistance.

“In the state of Florida, you have to have an ID card on you identifying who you are,” Bolen tells Shipman in the video.
“I can detain you up to seven hours until I figure out who you are.”

Eric Friday, a lawyer in Jacksonville, told First Coast News that the officer’s statement about an ID card was “blatantly false.” The law Bolen was referring to, according to the Sheriff’s Office, was Florida statute 322.15(1). But it only requires identification for someone operating a motor vehicle.

“It doesn’t apply to a person who’s just walking down the street,” Friday told First Coast News.
06-28-2017 , 01:58 PM
Study finds that black girls are viewed as less innocent, more adult than white girls

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Overall, the study concluded that when adults compared white girls and black girls they viewed black girls as needing less nurturing, less support and less comfort.
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It follows a 2014 study by researcher Phillip Goff that found black boys, as young as age 10, are more likely to be regarded as suspicious, older than they look, and presumed guilty of crimes.
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“Ultimately, adultification is a form of dehumanization, robbing black children of the very essence of what makes childhood distinct from all other developmental periods: innocence,” the authors wrote. “Adultification contributes to a false narrative that black youths’ transgressions are intentional and malicious, instead of the result of immature decision-making—a key characteristic of childhood.”

The authors wrote that these perceptions may be contributing to discrepancies in school discipline and juvenile justice charges among black girls. The study noted that black girls are five times more likely than white girls to be suspended from school and 20 percent more likely to be charged with a crime.
06-28-2017 , 03:34 PM
for those who aren't aware I am a private investigator and have been for many years. A few months ago I reached out to some colleagues I have in Russia to look into this whole Trump/Russia connection, and I can tell you even after this short time they literally can't believe what they've been finding!

I think when the whole story comes out some of the posters on here will be very surprised. I may even put the first reports here on 2+2 to give you all an advance look. Probably in about 2 weeks or so.
06-28-2017 , 04:21 PM
Wow, that's shocking. Hope to hear more from you soon.

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 06-28-2017 at 04:33 PM.
06-28-2017 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
"Assuredly"?

Assad figured he could get away with it because Russia would convince Trump--who loves conspiracy theories--that it was all a huge conspiracy. To Trump's credit, he didn't fall for it.

Others, however...
I do not see why you would think this. I know I'm late in responding but Assad has no upside to using chemical weapons other than your response after this about a psychological motive against his enemies.

Assad could have simply used conventional weapons. Big ones. He would be taking a huge risk using chemical weapons. Even if the thought it was highly unlikely he would get caught it doesn't mean he believed the chances would be zero. Why take that chance? Also, the price paid for getting caught is unacceptably high. He literally risks being assassinated for doing such a thing. He'd be an international pariah.

Why would any rational human being choose that, especially so when they have other equally lethal options available? If it was the only option available, then it's possible someone may do something that risky. But it wasn't, and I don't think Assad is irrational.

Your position just assumes too many things. Possible? Sure. Likely? Absolutely not. If you're allowed to kill someone any way you wish but not allowed to use a cleaver, you don't reach for the cleaver.
06-28-2017 , 05:31 PM
The evidence seems pretty conclusive to me.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ck-turkey-says
06-28-2017 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
They were all going to know and yet he wasn't going to "get caught" as you said. And that's competent reasonable strategy on Assad's part? He was reasonably thinking that he was expert enough to thread the needle between the White Helmets knowing about it, but not any western governments or media?

Apologies for the sarcasm. Idiot, accident, or lies imo.
I mean, there's a difference between people knowing and getting caught and suffering consequences. It's not unreasonable for Assad to think that Trump wouldn't do anything and that he would call chemical attacks "fake news." That's what I figured Trump would do.
06-28-2017 , 05:32 PM
Um, this whole thing got started partly because Assad's response to high school kids spray painting subversive graffiti was to string them up, torture them and electrocute them. Then when their parents and community protested for their release, his response was to have his soldiers fire indiscriminately into unarmed civilian crowds. When some soldiers refused to fire, the response was to have them summarily executed. That may sound quaint given the nightmare that has happened since, but this is bat**** insane behavior during a time of relative peace.

You obviously don't get the whole brutal, homicidal dictator thing if you can't understand why they'd want to use chemical weapons.

Also, you are vastly overstating the consequences. Given what happened in Iraq after Sadaam went down and the huge cluster**** Syria is now, the worst imaginable consequence for Assad is one of his pals takes over and he symbolically steps aside. And that worst case scenario isn't even close to happening.

Last edited by Pwn_Master; 06-28-2017 at 05:38 PM.
06-28-2017 , 05:40 PM
Assad is from the Kim jong un school of dictators.

Brutality and barbarity are their stock in trade.
06-28-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
The only hope for you is to flee or surrender.
And also:

If you ever start winning, we will do this to you on a larger scale. Give up.
06-28-2017 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Assad is from the Kim jong un school of dictators.

Brutality and barbarity are their stock in trade.
Never thought I'd agree with you on anything but here we are.

To take a stepback, it is not bat**** insane in a way. Clearly the signal he was sending from the beginning was that I'd rather burn this country to the ground than give up power or implement the reforms you are asking and there is some rational game theory to that. But it is still insane to really have the mindset where you actually mean that and follow through with it.

Unfortunately, there were jihadists on the other side who had the same mindset but from the opposite side and took advantage of the opportunity once things started to devolve. They were the real match for Assad. The sane person would go in to try and have peace negotiations with Assad then get thrown in a dungeon... and once other sane people saw that happening to their colleagues, they'd get the **** out of dodge.

And the average person who didn't like either of them was stuck in the middle like WAAF!
06-28-2017 , 06:17 PM
Yeah, it's fairly simple to figure out why he did it. Because he thought he could get away with it.

However Trump had other ideas. I would be very surprised if he tried it again despite the current rumors of preparation for another chemical attack.
06-28-2017 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TiltedDonkey
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No, not really, but I think the reason your post is true is precisely because wil is not uniquely bad. In fact I would argue the only thing unusual about wil is his willingness to share so many of his thoughts on this forum.



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Oh, totally. Here's one of quite a few posts I've made expressing that exact notion:

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Originally Posted by 5ive
I even made a whole thread to showcase wil's crushing victories but so far it's just derprats flinging derp.

And I shouldn't have to spell this out but, like, you know, MAGA *****, I don't actually GAF about Wil The Specific. He's shared enough personal details that I actually have a good picture of his life trajectory, but that seems unimportant. I do however GAF about Wil The General. Wils are everywhere.
06-28-2017 , 09:47 PM
The GOP is the party of "feels". William feels them, so do adios and broadway and pig. They are aggrieved. Things haven't worked out, someone is at fault. Certainly not them!
06-28-2017 , 10:06 PM
ADAPT are my heroes. If I had a sitter, I'd be in cells with em.
06-28-2017 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I thought you lived in Kansas City.
i just wanted to clear this up. I used to live in a big house almost an hour from kansas city in kansas. About 2 years ago i moved into a new apartment very close to kansas city. It is not in kansas city mo or kansas city kansas; it is in a suburb of kansas city in kansas.

The reason I thought that was odd is that I have been living in various places in kansas for about 15 years now. OP, manhattan(manhattan kansas home of kansas state), my moms house, a psychopaths house, and a couple apartments. like ive never even thought of living in missouri.

The reason I go to kansas city is that is where all the gay activities are. bars, clubs, shows, meetups. Its nothing like it was 15 years ago but kansas is still hostile to gays in many areas. Im broke and ruined everything but im actually really lucky i get to be myself.
06-28-2017 , 10:16 PM
tilted, ive decided i don't have time to get into it. sorry. I often say ill get back to it in posts like these but the truth is ill probably just forget about it.interesting post.
06-29-2017 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
If I apologize, will you calm down?

You legit got me worried.
No.
06-29-2017 , 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by samsonh
The GOP is the party of "feels". William feels them, so do adios and broadway and pig. They are aggrieved. Things haven't worked out, someone is at fault. Certainly not them!
Your posts are irrational garbage and not worth any serious thought but this post is particularly bad. It couldn't be more wrong. Everything about the left is based on feeling. The left is constantly the one talking about being scared, or trying to protect others from being scared. Everything is about worrying of another groups feelings on the left. To even attempt to defend your premise is hilarious.

Immigration? Feels. Gay marriage? Feels. Abortion? Feels. Transgender? Feels. Taxes? Feels. Welfare? Feels. Minimum wage? Feels. Affirmative action? Feels.

Everything about the left is based on emotion, not logic. Even when they lose an argument they use emotional based attacks on their opponents, calling them racists or bigots. Really, how could anyone argue against something life welfare or affirmative action in a logical manner and not eventually up being labelled a racist? Indeed, how many conservative thinkers can you name who isn't labelled as a racist or bigot or a misogynist?

It's absurdity at every level to believe what you're saying and only a fool could believe such utter nonsense.

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Originally Posted by corvette24
No.
Dude, PM me your address I'll send a box of kale chips to your house, on me.

Spoiler:
Speaking of feels...
06-29-2017 , 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
i just wanted to clear this up. I used to live in a big house almost an hour from kansas city in kansas. About 2 years ago i moved into a new apartment very close to kansas city. It is not in kansas city mo or kansas city kansas; it is in a suburb of kansas city in kansas.

The reason I thought that was odd is that I have been living in various places in kansas for about 15 years now. OP, manhattan(manhattan kansas home of kansas state), my moms house, a psychopaths house, and a couple apartments. like ive never even thought of living in missouri.

The reason I go to kansas city is that is where all the gay activities are. bars, clubs, shows, meetups. Its nothing like it was 15 years ago but kansas is still hostile to gays in many areas. Im broke and ruined everything but im actually really lucky i get to be myself.
Ahhh, ok. I've never been to Kansas. Honestly the news I hear out of Kansas is seldom good. Maybe one day I'll visit.
06-29-2017 , 01:18 AM
Just FYI I am like you would think and even tho I like you we don't have that much in common. If you wanted to come to kc I would be delighted to hang out with you.
06-29-2017 , 01:57 AM
I feel like wil is actively aiming to make the most perfectly stupid post in the history of this forum so we can all just call it a day and close up shop.
06-29-2017 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
Just FYI I am like you would think and even tho I like you we don't have that much in common. If you wanted to come to kc I would be delighted to hang out with you.
Hah. Well, if I'm ever in Kansas I'll let ya know. All of my 2+2 poster meetings have been great.
06-29-2017 , 03:19 AM
5ive would like to meet you too.

Spoiler:
Nah, I'm just kidding
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06-29-2017 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
5ive would like to meet you too.

Spoiler:
Nah, I'm just kidding
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I'd pay money to meet 5ive. I'm not kidding.

      
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