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06-27-2017 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by corvette24
Let's see here. It's not funny and I am serious. Your are a miserable piece of ****. You started this whole thing by saying you wanted to eviscerate all liberals from the planet. YOU. YOU started it. I'm not giving one inch now and I'm not relaxing. It's people like you that are THE problem here. You want nothing good for anyone but yourself. You want to rile people up and follow that by blaming them for coming back at you in spades for doing so.

Your people know exactly what you're talking about? This behavior is well known? You mean the behavior of someone like me who is not going to stand for it when a **** face **** like you says they shouldn't be allowed to exist? You should be concerned. Concerned that you are the scum of the earth. Uncaring, conceited, egotistical POS. I advice everyone on the left to take a close look at Wil. He is the epitome of the deplorable right.
Ran outta kale chips, eh?
06-27-2017 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
You think it'll cause problems? Like we've never had a domestic terror attack and now this travel ban is going to cause them? Lol. Not only that, microbet provides information below that none of them came from the countries.
Yes i think this helps ISIS.

And lol none came form those countries so lets ban people from those countries. Makes sense in trumpland i guess.
06-27-2017 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Yep. The entire thing is a pandering to his base. We all know this. The travel ban isn't going to do jack ****, it was a political stunt. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. It has nothing to do with actually stopping terrorism. Your point is moot.
Sounds like he's a pretty ****ing ****ty President.
06-27-2017 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I like sticking up for people I think have been unfairly harassed and it's a good quality you're showing here imo. I'm only saying semi-nice things about wil here for your benefit, but I wouldn't participate in the piling on if I didn't think he could take it.
Of course I can take it I've been doing it for a couple years now. I've defeated so many people I can't even remember half of them. Go look up my arguments from a couple years ago. Most of those people aren't around anymore. And I've beaten them all for money (I'm pretty sure there is not one person on 2+2 that has a positive history with me in terms of betting on political stuff). Don't believe me, ask them yourself.

I'll outlast this latest group too. You think you or jalfrezi or goofy are going to beat me? Not going to happen, son. The best you'll get is me just getting tired of posting here.
06-27-2017 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
This is not a healthy outlook on people. You actually should care as a decent human being.
I should care about someone that said I shouldn't be allowed on the planet? No sir, not in the least. I said in a previous post that he should be allowed to exist. That should be enough to differentiate myself from him. Me: I want to fight for justice for all people and Wil doesn't think people like me should be allowed to exist. Wil: He is a complete douchbag, but I think he should be able to exist nonetheless. There's a difference there, and I am definitely the decent human of the two.
06-27-2017 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Of course I can take it I've been doing it for a couple years now. I've defeated so many people I can't even remember half of them. Go look up my arguments from a couple years ago. Most of those people aren't around anymore. And I've beaten them all for money (I'm pretty sure there is not one person on 2+2 that has a positive history with me in terms of betting on political stuff). Don't believe me, ask them yourself.

I'll outlast this latest group too. You think you or jalfrezi or goofy are going to beat me? Not going to happen, son. The best you'll get is me just getting tired of posting here.
Beat you in what? Being right? Of course lots of people beat you in that.

In bets? I don't follow the prop bets. You may have an advantage here because you're betting against people who care about these things a lot more than you do.
06-27-2017 , 02:40 AM
From the bubble kids.
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
Trump doesn't care who we start a war with; but my god does he want to start a war.

Also this
MAGA...
06-27-2017 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by corvette24
I should care about someone that said I shouldn't be allowed on the planet?
I don't know, I do.
06-27-2017 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I don't know any secrets about wil. I think he is selfish, callous, anti-social, childish, anti-humanist and authoritarian. If you take him at his word he's an awful conceited egotist who thinks he's better than everyone else. It's more than possible that that's a cover for insecurity, but if not, he's a total tool and a jackass.

To be fair, other than being kind of a jackass, I don't think he's really extreme in any of the other ways. In real life he may well be tolerable, and in personal relationships he may be nice, relatively tolerant and decent, but on the internet at this point I'm not inclined to be charitable to Trumpkins as I think they are really seriously harming the country.

I definitely don't dislike all conservatives. And, as far as I've seen, none of the conservatives that I did like on 2p2 before 2016 ended up being Trumpkins.

Microbet, I respect your opinion. I still honestly like wil and will probably continue defending him but i'll think about what you said.
06-27-2017 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
I agree that it's plausible that it played some role in their decision, but when I put that into the larger context it doesn't seem to me to be an indictment against liberal concern about a living wage. I think it speaks to the need to develop new policy ideas, and there's a larger argument about this in the context of rising inequality.
My problem with the $15 minimum wage is this: I think there really are jobs that are profitable when workers are paid $7.25 or $10/hour, but not $15. Most of those jobs will disappear if the minimum wage is increased. And we already have a better solution. We can instead focus on broadening and increasing the Earned Income Tax Credit - a program that has a similar effect as an increase in the minimum wage on low-income workers, but without the potential job losses. Furthermore, this is a policy that was supported by both Obama and Paul Ryan (nominally at least).

Here's one way to think about it. As of 2012, McDonald's has 1.9M employees, the second most in the world. Its market cap is 125B. The three largest US companies (Apple, Alphabet, & Microsoft) have a combined market cap of 1.8T and around 300K employees. An increase in the minimum wage has a huge impact on McDonald's, but very little on these tech firms. Wouldn't it be better to share the cost of this wage increase broadly through taxation rather than putting it all on companies like McDonald's?

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But, I think it's almost certainly the case that McDonald's would have and will pursue automation regardless of their concern about impending wage changes, for the reasons I gave before. It's economically advantageous for them to do so in almost any conceivable regulatory environment.
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Sure, I agree they would likely pursue automation regardless, I think we are just talking about the rate at which they pursue it.
06-27-2017 , 06:03 AM
Before I go to bed let it be known that I predicted this weeks ago.

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05-02-2017, 09:18 PM
You think the block on Trump's EO on the "Muslim ban" will be upheld?

Let's make a wager. I'll take that the ban will be overturned and allowed. A small bet is fine if that's what you wish.
This was significantly before any of you morons thought his ban had a snowball's chance in hell of winning. Of course he would win, only an idiot would think it couldn't, and I offered money on it back when it was laughable by the left. As then and now, no one is willing to put money on it because you all know you'll lose.

Except well named, who may get a few beers from me.
06-27-2017 , 07:45 AM
That's what we're calling wins?
06-27-2017 , 08:15 AM
Clearly something is wrong with wil. He says he is near the top 2%. He also said he moved his investment accounts to cash in bfi. So he either doesn't have non qualified accounts (he isn't as rich as he says) or he is dumb and took an unnecessary capital gains hit. Either way lol wil
06-27-2017 , 09:18 AM
I mean wil posted his household income many times to brag. its ~250k. pretty solidly in the middle class and not even close to rich or wealthy.

I do think trumps policies are going to hurt him a lot.
06-27-2017 , 09:43 AM
Aren't you guys even reading? Wil just wins all the time.
06-27-2017 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by batair
From the bubble kids.
MAGA...
since obama was almost as bad of a president as bush, and since obamas 2 defining foreign policy acts are

a) winning a nobel prize for peace while continuing to dropping thousands of bombs the on middle east every month

b) issue red lines you are completely unwilling to follow up on

imma go and say trump is obviously doing better than obama on foreign affairs so far.
06-27-2017 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
It's 2+2 idiocy. I've met multiple people from the site. I've been nothing but nice to them. I have friends, I'm a friendly person. The morons here paint me as some sort of monster. Why? Because I wouldn't want an obvious man walking into my 4 year old daughters bathroom? That makes me a bad evil person?
You keep bringing this up. Why? You've mentioned this ~100x more than anyone else in this forum and I'm pretty sure the bathroom issue is only a tiny part of why people here don't like you.

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Originally Posted by wil318466
The whole thing is ridiculous. If people want to hate me that's fine but if you think I'm a terrible person many of you are in for a lot of disappoinment in life. I've met some terrible people who hold some awful views. I'm a saint compared to them. If I'm terrible they must be evil incarnate.
Lol, wil, no one here thinks you are like the pinnacle of human evil or something. We think you are a rare conservative who actually posts his views instead of this doing dumb trolling a la mongo dip****.

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Originally Posted by wil318466
Unfortunately, I think it does. It's not going to be fixed because no one wants to pay for it. It's not like we don't know how. We know how. We just don't want to do it. It's not magic.

People don't want to pay and they have a right to feel that way. I'm ok with it but if I said I don't want to pay for your healthcare, what argument can you ressonably make against that? I have healthcare, my family has healthcare. Why should I pay for you? (Not specifically me and you just in general).
You are framing the issue incorrectly. We don't want you to pay for me, we want everyone to pay for everyone a la public schooling and roads and all of the other **** that the government does.

Also, the masses don't have to convince the people at the top that they should pay, they only need convince each other that the people at the top should pay. The top, by definition, doesn't have the numbers to stop it.

Finally, the paragraph above is an argument for why you should want to pay. Even if you literally don't care about anyone but yourself, there's a limit to how much you can **** over the poor before they will rise up and kill you.

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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
It was a one time thing ans I only brought it up because your posting is apparently the supreme court case of pol 7. I wrote I had no contact with you not in real life , outside of 2p2 or even any pms but looking back I did actually pm you once. Its a cordial pm that I wont bring up again. Me and you are cool but a lot of people say you're a terrible person so Im not too sure what to think but i do know that i dont like 20 people all harassing the same guy on here especially if they are just doing it for political views. To me it just reads like harassment.
I'm not sure what you want us to do instead. wil is like the only conservative who posts any content. Of course we all respond to him.

Also it's hard to harass someone on an internet forum with voluntary participation. If he felt harassed he just wouldn't post here.
06-27-2017 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I advise everyone on the left to take a close look at what normal people view you as. This dude encompasses that pretty well. It is an amazing thing how broken so many minds are on the left. There are many people who think exactly like Corvette here. People on the right know exactly what I'm talking about, this type of behavior is well known and we've all dealt with it.

Corvette - you really need to take a break from here or put me on ignore to ensure you don't hurt yourself. Usually I would think something like this is funny but you sound serious, and I'm legit concerned. Relax a little. Have some of your kale chips and chill out.
corvette24 doesn't represent the left. Your problem seems to be that you are fighting against a caricature of the left that doesn't actually exist. For what it's worth corvette's posting here is pretty terrible.
06-27-2017 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
This is not a healthy outlook on people. You actually should care as a decent human being.
I applaud you for trying to communicate with the cracked out, but corvette looks finished.
06-27-2017 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by samsonh
Clearly something is wrong with wil. He says he is near the top 2%. He also said he moved his investment accounts to cash in bfi. So he either doesn't have non qualified accounts (he isn't as rich as he says) or he is dumb and took an unnecessary capital gains hit. Either way lol wil
In a 401k, Roth, and/or IRA? Nah.
06-27-2017 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
since obama was almost as bad of a president as bush, and since obamas 2 defining foreign policy acts are

a) winning a nobel prize for peace while continuing to dropping thousands of bombs the on middle east every month

b) issue red lines you are completely unwilling to follow up on

imma go and say trump is obviously doing better than obama on foreign affairs so far.
Cool now go out and convince the rest of humanity.
06-27-2017 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
I mean wil posted his household income many times to brag. its ~250k. pretty solidly in the middle class and not even close to rich or wealthy.

I do think trumps policies are going to hurt him a lot.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...rcent-map.html

A household income of $250,000 would put him in the 97th percentile (granted this is five years old but it should still be pretty close). I don't think that is solidly in the middle class.

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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
since obama was almost as bad of a president as bush, and since obamas 2 defining foreign policy acts are

a) winning a nobel prize for peace while continuing to dropping thousands of bombs the on middle east every month

b) issue red lines you are completely unwilling to follow up on

imma go and say trump is obviously doing better than obama on foreign affairs so far.
My god, your stupidity is breathtaking. Like, either a) is bad or b) is bad but not both, idiot.
06-27-2017 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Before I go to bed let it be known that I predicted this weeks ago.
wil is like a dumb, broken robot. Not only has this still not happened, we've already been over that it hasn't happened!
06-27-2017 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Original Position
My problem with the $15 minimum wage is this: I think there really are jobs that are profitable when workers are paid $7.25 or $10/hour, but not $15. Most of those jobs will disappear if the minimum wage is increased. And we already have a better solution. We can instead focus on broadening and increasing the Earned Income Tax Credit - a program that has a similar effect as an increase in the minimum wage on low-income workers, but without the potential job losses. Furthermore, this is a policy that was supported by both Obama and Paul Ryan (nominally at least).
This is a good point and I agree with you.
06-27-2017 , 12:09 PM
+1 to OP's post.

      
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