Just to be clear, I'm betting this for fun. I'm pretty sure I'm going to lose, but it's for the lolz. This doesn't count against my permanent record.

He revised it to ensure it would get past the courts. The entire thing was a publicity stunt. It has no real purpose. Everyone knows this. That has nothing to do with him being (legally) able to do it.

You don't say!

He revised it to get it by the courts which he didn't need to do because it was legal and he would of been able to do it.

I don't think he should have revised it at all. He started playing a game against the courts, who really made a stretch to strike it down in terms of interpretation.

Trump will win, as he always does. Face the facts, he's beating the piss out of you on every level except the media.

Everything you believe in is wrong. Wake up.

Mostly, like CU, upholding the ban would be horrible, immoral and harmful to the country.

On the other side there is some combination of trolls who don't care about America and think this is about correctly predicting court decisions on an internet forum and fascists SOBs who love this ****.

Ok...

And yet you claim to know significantly more about the law than people who are. lol wil

Snipped everything but the bit I was interested in replying to.

I don't think he is being painted in a confusing light by the media. I think the media portrayals of him are indeed confusing, but this is because he is inherently confusing.

I don't know if I think he is a psycho but I definitely believe he is an idiot and is fumbling around in the dark.

I'm not sure why you say his background does not support that view.

You wrote this as a response to my post but it doesn't really respond to my post. I never said anything about whether welfare was a decent way to live or not.

1. Welfare obviously disincentivizes work to some degree, but you have to demonstrate that

a) This matters.
b) The degree is significant.
c) It is not worth it to disincentivize work in order to prevent people from dying on the street

in order to use that as an argument for getting rid of welfare.

I've never claimed I'm a legal expert. I don't know jack **** about the law. I can, however, read, and I've read about the ban. I can also have an opinion. I can also offer to make a wager.

I know significantly more about the law? Can any reasonable person really agree with your claim?

I thought of this oft-repeated line of yours as I walked through downtown San Francisco to work this morning. This past weekend was a gay pride celebration, and I walked by an office of a financial company whose windows were covered in rainbow flags. In a lot of places in this country, such a display would be controversial, or offensive, but here it's so commonplace that it's just good business and PR.

lol at thinking you, or anyone, will ever change this place into what you want it to be just because Donald Trump got elected 3,000 miles away.

Also I have no doubt that if given the choice to pump gas for $15k or receive dat welfare for $15k ~everybody would pick dat welfare but I assume this is not an actual choice that people have?

Like it seems all these arguments are build off an imaginary ******ed welfare system that (probably) doesn't exist but granted I have literally no idea how welfare works so someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

Diane black is really bad. As is Mae beavers. Also, the population of the blue cities in tn has expanded, and health care is huge business here. The health care companies are still furious tn took no action to expand Medicaid, so that money will back the democrat candidate.

This post literally seems like an argument against the arguments you make for getting rid of welfare (didn't you argue that we shouldn't have it because it disincentivizes people from working because they'd rather have welfare?)

Do you think this somehow contradicts OP's graph?

Opps Spicer not doing a live press conference again. Another loss to the media.

Also, the economy missed forecast on all major data points this morning. Wil, is this more winning?

That's great. I'm glad to hear it. I've always supported gay marriage and I'm completely supportive of it. Gay marriage isn't a form of sex, it's a form of love, and it should be given the respect it deserves.

I've always held that position, since 1996 or so.

What's the issue?

San Fran is a great town. I'm jealous. I "lived" there for 6 months a few years ago, over the Bay bridge in the apartments on top of Bay Street in Emeryville. You ever been there? It was downright magical living there. I loved every second of it.

And they had a Fuddruckers there.

This place is full of people who believe all the things you think are stupid and it's working our great for them/us. California's in a great place because of those beliefs, and we're going to keep winning, no matter how many angry people wag their fingers at us shouting "everything you believe is a lie", lol.

To be fair I think he was talking about the different fictional black friend re: the utility bill.

Yeah but why though?

Yeah but what about Nixon?

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if $15 is too high.

lol

But it is. Leftist thinking is idiocy. It's based on lies. Even in your example you prove my point. If we believed in the rhetoric people like you spew we'd think angry mobs of white men go around killing gays for being gay. It's completely idiocy. That simply doesn't happen.

If we believed in your crap a city like San Francisco couldn't exist. Yet it does. Ask yourself why? Full of minorities and gays all living and working in a peaceful, civil society. My God, do women even make a decent living there and can afford to live there? How could they when they are paid 77 cents on the dollar in one of the most expensive real estate markets in the world?

Yes. Everything you believe in, everything you have been taught, is a big fat ****ing lie. Everything. It's all nonsense. Look it up yourself. Do the research yourself. Don't believe me, don't believe anyone, GO LOOK IT UP, and I guarantee you if you look at it with an open mind you'll realize it's all bull****.

wil, what do you think of these posts made before the election? Do you generally agree with their sentiments?

Anti-gay violence doesn't happen?

Because it's full of liberals.

Wil, you personally have said you would assault transgendered people if they use the wrong restroom.