Just using a little hyperbole.

It's all about the midterms. If they don't make a huge dent in the midterms all is lost for them, and they know it.

McDonald's is installing kiosks to replace workers.

Lol. Hahahaha. Wow. Idiot dumb ass liberal moron policies. Wow.

Everything about the left is a ****ing joke.

Long term.

That wasn't the question. I am asking under similar circumstances who's policies are most likely to result in lower unemployment long term.

There's a good telephone game with this one.

you know hillary has more connections with russia than trump right

rich/powerful people have connections and interests in other nations, lets witch hunt them!!!!!1

What does this have to do with liberals? You sound like a crazy person.

hes talking about the minimum wages laws the left loves

What does that have to do with McDonald's rolling this out nationwide? Remind me, what's the federal minimum wage? Weird how conservative states like Alaska and Arizona have pretty high min wages, isn't it? So liberal of them!

One party is for collective bargaining and the other is for the free market and ruthlessly replacing jobs with machines the moment it becomes financially expedient. Even I didn't pick wil as being dumb enough to blame this on the former group, but here we are.

This isn't that dumb. The higher the price of labor the better the return from replacing labor, thus also a higher ROI in labor-saving devices like fast food kiosks. This would imply that a higher minimum wage could have the effect of replacing these jobs more quickly than they would be without the increase.

It amazes me how people like you can't see outside of your spoon-fed ideas. Look at the big picture. Why are fast food companies moving to kiosks? Are costs a factor? Of course.

How about more important questions like what is the purpose of entry level positions? Why are people demanding higher pay in an entry level position? You're not supposed to stay in an entry level position, that's why they are called "entry level". These positions are 100% turnover rate. They are stepping stone jobs and they should lead to other jobs. Where are those other jobs and who are these people stuck in these non skilled jobs? Why do they DESERVE 15 dollars an hour? Who else deserves what?

Finally, what will be the end effect? I'll tell ya what - companies eliminating those jobs or them hiring better people. That means the lower qualified get pushed out. It's just common sense.

One of the reasons the min wage laws exist was to keep white workers on top. Many employers 100 years ago would hire blacks for cheaper pay. Those workers could then make some money and hopefully learn some skills and move on, it wasn't from benevolence.

Min wage laws will help the people who have those jobs, but there will be less of those jobs to go around.

It's complete idiocy and it takes away the one thing that unskilled labor has - the ability to work for cheap. Why do you think illegals find work so easily? Because everyone loves people who can't speak the language?!

It's not you who's "winning", is it?

I can understand why a middle aged man still working 80 hour weeks would be on the side of unskilled workers, but there's this thing called 'progress' which will see most of the unskilled jobs automated sooner or later, and it's nothing whatsoever to do with liberalism, capitalism, socialism or any other political credo.

Complete nonsense and definitely not based on evidence in this particular instance in reference to McDonald's.

And you're right, I really don't care at all. Raise the min wage to 25 dollars an hour. I make much more than that. That has nothing to do with me calling out stupidity.

Min wage laws hurt unskilled workers the most. Only a moron couldn't realize that immediately.

The bots are coming and if the rich folk dont get that safety net working right the poor white man might just stop being that pawn in the game and join the other poor folk.

ok THIS is definitely peak wil even though there's less sound and fury at first glance

dude. in a previous post you advocated exterminating everyone on the left.

ya but they obv had a great christmas bc they thought they would keep their jobs, so it wasnt a lie. and what a great play by trump to give these ppl piece of mind and hope for a few months.

Funny that I haven't seen your name in a while and I'm reading another thread and came across your name at the same time.

I mean.. it's just funny how wrong you are about everything. Leftists. Lol. You're all the same, it's just sad and pathetic.

can't really associate socialism with progress tho, progress grinds to a halt a few decades after socialism takes hold somewhere

You are wrong. The unskilled labor will adept to what is in demand, but the demand will not disappear. There have been quite a few cases where your argument was made and everything there was a group of people that said unemployment is going to the moon and they have been wrong every time.

I can't offhand think of any countries that followed Socialist doctrine that would otherwise have advanced. I can think of a few that claimed to be Socialist but were nothing of the sort.

Wil, I see what you are doing and I know you are frustrated, but this is not called for. I know you think basic economic concepts are basic, but they are too complex for this crowd. Even when you try to explain these basic concepts you don't break them down far enough. It is like showing your work on a math problem from grade school - if you skip one step (because it is easy for you) they are lost.

I hope you are not intentionally speaking over the heads of the so called liberals you are trying to help.