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Old 06-20-2017, 01:30 PM   #6501
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The people who think alex jones fanbase are all in on it - you're part of the crazy if you believe that. He's been hocking magic cure all pills and nuclear survival gear to his fanbase since way back ... stuff that's clearly geared towards the intellectually disabled. There're clearly a lot of people out there who look at him as some kind of oracle of truth.

I also suspect that most of the people who would publicly deny they're watching it as anything other than satire put a lot more stock in what he says than they'd be willing to admit publicly or even to themselves (that's been my experience with a guy i know who watches him). It became obvious leading up to the election when the guy who said it was all a joke starts picking up all his talking points about things like pizza gate. They just say that they watch him as satire because they don't want to look like loonies. Lots of overlap with jones fanbase and libertarian-tards, ron paul fans and all the other gibberish you find from people who're way behind the curve academically.
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Old 06-20-2017, 01:56 PM   #6502
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Actually, the recent attack still supports my argument. Had Britain not let all of these people in there would not be a need for a revenge attack.

I believe the fence built by the Israelis has worked quite well. The great wall of China did the job keeping the Mongolians out. Prison walls tend to keep the prisoners were they need to be. Does this make sense how the Wall would be a good counter terrorism policy? If everybody behaved there would be no reason for a wall.
Mongidig has been given a 1 day timeout for this post (see highlighted)

Please be careful to avoid giving the suggestion that victims of terror attacks bear responsibility for the attacks against them. It's OK to argue against immigration policies, and this post is at least arguably ambiguous in terms of its implications, but since you've been warned several times about violations of rules against objectionable content, in this case you're not getting the benefit of the doubt.

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Old 06-20-2017, 02:03 PM   #6503
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A day later, Trump has still not said a word about the latest London attack

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A full 24 hours after the incident, Trump had yet to express condolences to the attack's victims or support for London. Contrast that to his rushed messaging when groups like the Islamic State are suspected to be involved.

In the wake of a previous attack at London Bridge, Trump immediately took to Twitter to bemoan “political correctness.” He invoked the chaos in Britain as justification for his own controversial plans to impose a travel ban on a handful of Muslim-majority countries. Suffice it to say, Trump issued no tweets about the perils of disgruntled middle-aged white Britons coming to America and renting vans.
Utterly pathetic behavior, but at this point pretty much expected
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:09 PM   #6504
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I hope broadway and bee and wil and mon are trolls, if so they are great entertainment. If not, a sad representation of our education policy.

Edit to add they I don't think there is any chance they aren't trolls. Except for wil. I think he is real.
I think the answer is mixed.

Broadway and Mongi are clearly trolling in some sense. While I think the intent of their posts is primarily to antagonize liberal posters, I think the content of them still somewhat accurately reflects their views.

wil and bee I think are 100% sincere.
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:10 PM   #6505
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Do you think he's a white supremacist troll, then?

If so, why do you let him post here?

Dude you signed up to be ****ing chezlaw's Robin you don't get to make posts like this.
Yeah honestly I have no idea why mongi is not banned.
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:20 PM   #6506
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Trump administration setting new lows in transparency: press briefings becoming rarer and shorter



And not only is there less time, but with bizarre restrictions on camera and audio, the media is getting less information:

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Monday on CNN, an exasperated Jim Acosta emerged from Spicer's off-camera briefing and reported that the event had been a waste of time.

“The White House press secretary is getting to a point, Brooke, where he's just kind of useless,” Acosta told anchor Brooke Baldwin. “You know, if he can't come out and answer the questions, and they're just not going to do this on camera or audio, why are we even having these briefings or these gaggles in the first place?”
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Old 06-20-2017, 03:28 PM   #6507
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Mongidig and Sushy lying about whether they are American or not is pretty clear proof that they are trolls.

Goofy, I hope you aren't taking them seriously.

Chez, lol.
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Citation requested or apologize, you ****ing liar.

Find one post of mine where I have said I'm American or voted in America.
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How about no?
Mods.

I would like it noted that I asked this poster for a citation for his blatant lies about me. And he has refused.

P.S. Please don't delete the posts.

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Old 06-20-2017, 03:34 PM   #6508
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Aren't you in favor of personal attacks?
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Old 06-20-2017, 03:35 PM   #6509
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You poor fluffy bunny wabbit BS.

It will be interesting to see what the mods say. I'm pretty sure the rules were that if you can't provide a citation then you can't repeat the claim but then again it's Tuesday today so who knows?
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Old 06-20-2017, 03:38 PM   #6510
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Personal attacks don't bother me.

Blatant lies do.

And it's not the first time from that particular poster either.
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Old 06-20-2017, 03:40 PM   #6511
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Wait, the trump supporters ITT mostly aren't Americans?


The new international lost cause.
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Old 06-20-2017, 03:44 PM   #6512
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It will be interesting to see what the mods say. I'm pretty sure the rules were that if you can't provide a citation then you can't repeat the claim but then again it's Tuesday today so who knows?
I rolled a 1d8 to check and that does appear to be the only possible relevant rule. I'm not sure it was intended to cover accusing posters of lying about their nationality, but why not? It's a factual claim.

I think it's entirely possible microbet is just mistaken about sushy claiming to be American. I think sushy said once that he was "spiritually American". So anyway, lets say if you're going to claim he's lied about it you should try to demonstrate it, and otherwise not make that claim again.

Oh, and there's no chance I'm going to try to apply this rule to accusations that aren't very clear-cut, so let's not do that :P
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Old 06-20-2017, 03:48 PM   #6513
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I cast magic missile.
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Old 06-20-2017, 03:57 PM   #6514
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I rolled a 1d8 to check and that does appear to be the only possible relevant rule. I'm not sure it was intended to cover accusing posters of lying about their nationality, but why not? It's a factual claim.

I think it's entirely possible microbet is just mistaken about sushy claiming to be American. I think sushy said once that he was "spiritually American". So anyway, lets say if you're going to claim he's lied about it you should try to demonstrate it, and otherwise not make that claim again.

Oh, and there's no chance I'm going to try to apply this rule to accusations that aren't very clear-cut, so let's not do that :P
Correct. I did. That was during a discussion about me not being American but still commenting on American politics. Fwiw I don't see why that should preclude anyone from discussing it. There are plenty of posters on either side who aren't American.

Edit: Microbet clearly is lying deliberately and it's not the first time as I said. If he was simply mistaken why didn't he admit it and apologize?

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Old 06-20-2017, 03:58 PM   #6515
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:13 PM   #6516
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Edit: Microbet clearly is lying deliberately and it's not the first time as I said.
Citation please.
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:17 PM   #6517
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Citation please.
He didn't admit it was a mistake or apologize, so the only conclusion to take is that it was deliberate.
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:25 PM   #6518
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You also need a citation for the claim that it's not the first time.
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:25 PM   #6519
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Jalfrezi, you're not American. How come you don't get called out for commenting on American politics like I do?
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:28 PM   #6520
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You also need a citation for the claim that it's not the first time.
OK. You will have to give me some time though as I'll have to go back and find the relevant post/s.
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:29 PM   #6521
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BS: You need to ask the people who are calling you out, but would you agree that you and mongi have both been evasive when asked where you're from, and that that response is pretty odd on a forum where people habitually discuss such things?
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:34 PM   #6522
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BS: You need to ask the people who are calling you out, but would you agree that you and mongi have both been evasive when asked where you're from, and that that response is pretty odd on a forum where people habitually discuss such things?
Funnily enough I've never actually been asked where I'm from, believe it or not.

Citation requested for when I have ever been asked?
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:36 PM   #6523
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Personal attacks don't bother me.

Blatant lies do.

And it's not the first time from that particular poster either.
Well many personal attacks are lies.

I generally use 2+2 to communicate via pm with a couple of BFI posters and use the remaining time enjoying the hysteria that politics generates. In my eyes, its seems strange to get this worked up and ask for an apology from some random dude you'll never meet in another country accusing you of lying about where you live. But then again, if all the adults stopped bitching to one another over idiotic reasons then P7 would lose 3/4 of its value. So carry on.
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:39 PM   #6524
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Funnily enough I've never actually been asked where I'm from, believe it or not.

Citation for when I have ever been asked?
I don't need to provide a citation for this, because I asked you a question.
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Old 06-20-2017, 04:42 PM   #6525
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BS: You need to ask the people who are calling you out, but would you agree that you and mongi have both been evasive when asked where you're from, and that that response is pretty odd on a forum where people habitually discuss such things?
Citation for the bolded?

That's a statement of fact within a question.
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