Works for me.

wil is so ****ing sheltered he can nearly always be lead into making like, exactly your point for you.

Of course this is during wil's manic phase, in 3-5 beers he'll be in here sobbing about the imminent destruction of Western civilization and how he doesn't understand why people are mean to him since he's such a nice guy.

I have a feeling that will be a useful quote some time.

Beer is for animals. Grow up.

Big problem, citations do not substantiate your claim of a promise of high paying jobs. Hint: You need a quote from TRUMP.

Ditto. Show us the specific claims that CA and NY don't matter. Please be specific in who these conservatives are.

Not that many facts actually and these "facts" are irrelevant regarding your claim.

Standard, goofy making it personal.

Trump, in an absolutely embarrassing episode, deliberately took the mayor of London's comments out of context to attack him less than a day after his city was attacked by terrorists:

Trump's reaction to the bolded is to try to sow fear and panic:


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...28428963901440

Pathetic. Thankfully, not all parts of our government are so cowardly, as the acting US ambassador to the UK demonstrates:


https://twitter.com/USAinUK/status/871435629569212416

WaPo contrasts Trump's response with other world leaders


This reminds me of an article from ~a week ago, contrasting how quickly Trump jumps to use Islamic terrorist attacks for political purposes with his more muted responses to other kinds of terrorism: Trump’s quick to tweet about terror and TV, slower on things like the attack in Portland



I'm surprised by the incompleteness of this article, actually - it doesn't include Trump's swift response to the killing of 1 police officer in Paris recently before the election (if you all remember when he thought it would affect the results - whoops, about that...), or the Quebec mosque attack where Trump shamefully never publicly responded at all to the execution of 6 Muslim immigrants by a right-wing terrorist.

its possible to take mr terrorism is just a fact of life in a big city out of context?

Even the conservative Jennifer Rubin is embarrassed at how Donald Trump makes our country look

As a conservative I have to admit it is sickening to see our president call a terrorist attack a terrorist attack. Add this to the list of all the vile things he has said.

Oh dear God. Wiggle harder.

You could go on any website anywhere with a comments section related to politics and find umpteen conservatives ranting about liberal elites, how CA is a socialist hellhole, how Hillary only won the popular vote because of CA, how these coastal meccas aren't "real America", etc etc etc. You know this is true. The far-right hates these places, but happily takes their money.

As far as Trump, you know he pitched improvements in the coal mining and manufacturing industries in the Midwest/Rust Belt. That's what enabled him to flip 5 states there (and curiously, nearly flip Minnesota)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.166000f5957a

"I made them this promise. We will put our miners back to work."

http://time.com/4570070/donald-trump-coal-jobs/

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...facturing-ceos

THE PRESIDENT: "Well, thank you very much. It's a great honor to have everybody. And some of the great people in the world of business, many of you I know -- many of you I know from reading all of our wonderful magazines and business magazines, in particular. So it's an honor to have you with us today.

Bringing manufacturing back to America, creating high-wage jobs was one of our campaign promises and themes, and it resonated with everybody. It was really something what happened. States that hadn’t been won in many, many years were -- they came over to our fold. A lot of it had to do with the jobs, and other reasons -- but jobs. And I'm delivering on everything that we've said. In fact, people are saying they've never seen so much happen in 30 days of a presidency. We've delivered on a lot."

Oh, and by the way, I didn't provide facts? I fully backed my claim that CA/NY provide almost 1/4 of this country's GDP, and that in terms of federal tax dollars red states drain while blue states pour.

so neo con that writes for pj media and wapo is embarrassed at donald trump the anti-neo con

what a surprise

Exactly. I mean it's just a few jihadis exercising their religious beliefs.

How intolerant of him to call it terrorism.

you guys know that hammering trump on his harsh reaction to terrorist attacks is not winning you any points right? Its terrible strategy, this is why trump got elected

You guys would be better off saying nothing at all than coming up with responses this poor. It gives up how utterly weak your position is when the only thing you can do is build strawmen to tear down.

Goof, how is this a strawman? Your two posts prior to my post criticized trump for how he called a terrorist attack a terrorist attack and then I agreed and said he shouldn't have called it a terrorist attack. I'm just trying to join you and other liberals on the everything trumps says is vile train.

You're suggesting the article was the equivalent of 'calling a terrorist attack a terrorist attack'.

The author was critical of him because he attacked the mayor of london for telling people not to panic / that the situation was being dealt with, and then within a couple of minutes used the tragedy to support his policy goals.

I don't think either of those things are particularly offensive, but i would say it's in pretty bad taste. We've just become so desensitized to his tactlessness that it seems normal.

Stopping you here - nope. Stop lying, or learn to read if this isn't just dumb trolling and you actually believe it.

Not only this - Trump blatantly mischaracterized the mayor's comments.

Goofs posted twice back to back about it and the first one was a wapo article that he quoted his favorite parts of the article. It accuses trump of calling a terrorist attack a terrorist attack. goof then goes on to mention another article he read and complains about how trump often tweets about real news events within a day or week of them taking place.

Yeah, apparently goofy thinks Trump shouldn't jump to conclusions when knife-wielding men stab everyone in sight after running over pedestrians with a van.

After all it might just be road rage or something.

Again, the fact that all you can do here is put words into others' mouths (where did I say anything remotely like that?) shows the utter weakness of your position.

As the article says, including in the portion I quoted:

Not only did he link the Drudge Report of all things (Sushy, I know you're someone who purports to be very concerned with fake news - this should bother you!), but he did so at a time when nobody knew **** and British authorities were concerned about potential misinformation being spread. It's super reckless for him to say anything at all beyond boilerplate condolences and well-wishes.

And then what he did say was incredibly undiplomatic (to say nothing of dishonestly mischaracterizing the mayor of London's words to attack him within a day of the attack, for ****'s sake) and used the terrorist attack for political gain. After all, that's what Trump really wants out of terrorist attacks - he doesn't actually care about the victims, because if the attack wasn't perpetrated by Muslims to fit the narrative he enjoys then he basically won't say **** about it.

All of the above are objectionable aspects of his response. You and mickey simply reduce the objection to "calling a terrorist attack a terrorist attack" because that's all you guys have: lies. As always, there's zero logic, facts, or real arguments on your side.

LOL. Come on goofy, get a grip.

Everyone knew it was a terrorist attack as soon as the initial reports came out.

You spend too much time in that delusional bubble over in alpha. It's warping your sense of reality.

No they didn't. They assumed it was and on this occasion were right.

There have been other reports of "terrorist attacks" that turned out to be nothing of the sort.

Oh right. It could have been road rage.

Lol jalfrezi.